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Old 01-18-2006, 01:58 PM   #46
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God gave us rules to live by (Ten Commandments) if we dont follow them we get punished, which could equal Hell for some of us. So if a murderer kills someone=deathpenalty, then after god can decide what to do with them.

Only 2 of which are made into laws. We allow God to make the ultimate judgment on the other 8, we should allow God to make the ultimate judgment on this one as well. For someone's life IS the ultimate judgment.
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:00 PM   #47
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Still who gave the murderer a right to take someones life? For that he should be punished by death. Because obviously the people who are buried and will never see their family again did not expect to be brutally murdered.
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God gave us rules to live by (Ten Commandments) if we dont follow them we get punished, which could equal Hell for some of us. So if a murderer kills someone=deathpenalty, then after god can decide what to do with them.
We are also given the New Testament, much less where Jesus gives us the parables where let the person who is without sin cast the first stone and to turn the other cheek. To me that says be the bigger person and don't kill someone just because they have killed.
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But god gave us free will. Which means create our own laws and punish accordingly.
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Well then neither does keeping them in prison forever. Cause they will do the same shit in prison, taking "Human life"
So we should kill all prisoners and eliminate jails because prisoners may kill each other? I'm not following.
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seperate laws but still murder or is war crimes different from murder, can you explain that to me?? I didn't know there was a difference.
You'd have to talk to an expert in that type of law, but yes it's entirely different law.
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But god gave us free will. Which means create our own laws and punish accordingly.
Yes, I believe that God did give us free will, but I think the point of that free will isn't to go around enacting laws justifying the execution of someone.
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Still who gave the murderer a right to take someones life? For that he should be punished by death. Because obviously the people who are buried and will never see their family again did not expect to be brutally murdered.
No one gave them the right, that's why it's against the law.

Should all who break the law receive the same action that made them law breakers?
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But god gave us free will. Which means create our own laws and punish accordingly.
This is a stretch. Based on this logic it's ok to make adultery or homosexuality punishable by stoning. We could just move to Iran for that.
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Well then tell criminals to stop going around and killing people Randhail. What justifies someone going up to another person and killing them??? There is no justification for that and those people that do that should be delt with, even if it ment execution.


Those that are being executed are lucky they are being put to death in a humanitarian way unlike the person(s) they killed.

The prison population should be kept in different areas of a prison or have one prison only for murderers, one for robbers(that are serving lighter sentences.) etc...

So what if they are two different laws didn't they kill "Human Beings?"
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Nope, thats why robbers, rapists and others have different sentences.

Were better than Iran, we dont stone people for adultery, they have lawyer who settle that.

Oh and by the way Bonovox your the one who brang up god in these arguments, with your Jesus remarks.
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Well then tell criminals to stop going around and killing people Randhail. What justifies someone going up to another person and killing them??? There is no justification for that and those people that do that should be delt with, even if it ment execution.


Those that are being executed are lucky they are being put to death in a humanitarian way unlike the person(s) they killed.

The prison population should be kept in different areas of a prison or have one prison only for murderers, one for robbers(that are serving lighter sentences.) etc...

So what if they are two different laws didn't they kill "Human Beings?"
If someone is going to kill, no law or penalty is going to change that. A good number of murders are murders of passion - the person seemed to be normal, but then just snapped. The death penalty will do nothing to prevent those.

You consider the electric chair humane?

Prisons do have areas dealing soley with the most violent people. They also have maximum and minimum security prisons.
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Lethal injection is more human that pointing a sawed off shot gun to someones forehead and blasting their brains all over the wall.
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Lethal injection is more human that pointing a sawed off shot gun to someones forehead and blasting their brains all over the wall.
How is killing someone via lethal injection, shot gun, ravaged by wolves, etc humane? The outcome is same.
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I compared what Allen recieved as his execution to what he did to the three innocent people. shot gun to the face, gun blast to the heart and lungs.
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Well then tell criminals to stop going around and killing people Randhail. What justifies someone going up to another person and killing them??? There is no justification for that and those people that do that should be delt with, even if it ment execution.
No one is saying they are justified, but what justifies your taking of life? It's a matter of stooping to their level. Why do you want to stoop to their level. What do you get out of it?

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The prison population should be kept in different areas of a prison or have one prison only for murderers, one for robbers(that are serving lighter sentences.) etc...
Do you think murders are the only ones getting in fights and killing in prisons?
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So what if they are two different laws didn't they kill "Human Beings?"
Isn't that what war is? The laws are different because they are soldiers under orders, same as our soldiers.
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