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Old 07-26-2003, 01:01 PM   #1
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The Rhetoric that lies Ahead 2004

[Q]But in the last 18 months, it has become clear that the extreme, Bush-hating wing of the Democrat Party has decided to either ignore or reject the fundamental realities of 21st century life.

And rather than distance themselves from the hate, the party's leaders have embraced it.

To try to gauge just how out of touch the Democrat leadership is on the war on terror, just close your eyes and try to imagine Ted Kennedy landing that Navy jet on the deck of that aircraft carrier.

I don't know about you, I certainly don't want to see Teddy Kennedy in a Navy flight suit anytime soon.

After their embarrassing behavior over the last 18 months, the Democrats now have no credibility on national security.

Just look at the record.

John Kerry says what we really need is “regime change in Washington.”

After the Iraqi uprising at Firdos Square, House Democrat Leader Nancy Pelosi said she STILL opposed the war, and that "we could have brought down that statue for a lot less."

More recently, Howard Dean said he wasn't sure if the people in Iraq were better off under Saddam Hussein or not.

When criticized for these kinds of comments, the Democrats said we were questioning their patriotism.

Not so!

The Democrats' problem is not a lack of patriotism. It's a lack of seriousness.

They don't hate their country, they just refuse to lead it.

I will never call the Democrat Party unpatriotic, but I will call their current leadership unfit to face the serious challenges of the 21st century.

Just look at their rhetoric about the President's State of the Union speech.

Saddam Hussein – it is universally accepted by the international intelligence community – had weapons of mass destruction.

He was working to get more. He was a sponsor of terror and a threat to his neighbors.

He started two wars, tortured countless dissidents, and was so desperate to develop nuclear weapons that American presidents of both political parties urged his ouster.

His removal from power was an absolute good and Operation Iraqi Freedom was justified by any moral, political, legal, or humanitarian standard you apply to it.

No responsible leader could have permitted him to remain in Baghdad.

Yet the Democrats now spew more rhetoric about President Bush than they ever did about Saddam Hussein.

So unserious are the Democrats that they are now embarrassing themselves and their party over a single, irrelevant sentence in a 10-year old case for war that could run a hundred thousand pages long.

Howard Dean says the president intentionally misled the American people.

John Kerry hinted Operation Iraqi Freedom was about oil.

Dick Gephardt the other day said we were less safe and less secure than we were four years ago… when Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein ran free.

Blame-America-first liberals all over the country are repeating this nonsense.

But make no mistake: this isn't just campaign rhetoric we're talking about.

Let's be real clear:

If you take their comments to their logical conclusion, they're essentially calling our Commander in Chief, Benedict Arnold.

Ridiculous as it sounds, the logical extension of the Democrat leadership's assertion is that President Bush is an international war criminal.[/Q]

His statements begin with:

[Q]Good afternoon, or, as John Kerry might say: “Bonjour!”[/Q]

This brought to us by Tom Delay.
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As warranted as criticism may be for Democrats, what I dislike about many Republicans is that they tinge their criticism with ineloquent hatred. The Ted Kennedy aircraft carrier comment is completely unnecessary (a sly comment on his weight, IMO), and so is the "Bonjour!"

As much as I'm waiting for an intelligent Democrat to step up to the plate, I'm still waiting for an intelligent Republican. As I was once told, both Democrats and Republicans will tell you that the government is mismanaged. Democrats get elected to try and correct it; Republicans get elected to prove it.

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melon, melon, melon, surely you aren't telling me that democrats don't respond with hateful statements, are you?

Surely you haven't forgotten that just a couple of weeks ago, the NAACP chair likened Republicans to Nazis...

Or how about Goerge Clooney's comments about Charleton Heston?

Or his comments that the US Military couldn't beat anyone right now?

Or how about Ale Baldwin's foaming at the mouth tirade against henry Hyde in which he stated that "we should go up to his house and stone him and his family"?

Do I need to go on, my friend? I certyainly can, if you'd like...
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And all of those hateful statements from Republicans or Democrats achieve exactly what...?
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And all of those hateful statements from Republicans or Democrats achieve exactly what...?
That's what makes American politics so frustrating. We get cutesie thirty-second sound bites for the evening news as a substitute for substantive political debate. No wonder half of us don't even bother to vote. This is sometimes blamed on apathy. Well, how do you get excited about this junk? I hate to sound cynical but I haven't liked many of the presidential campaigns of late on either side.
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Do I need to go on, my friend? I certyainly can, if you'd like...
These are Democratic supporters, not politicians. Who is Tom DeLay again? He's certainly a bit higher up the political chain than George Clooney.

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Well then, would you you like me to post a collection of quotes from Democrat politicians then? I asure you I'd be happy to do so...
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Please do so, only if you'd like a comparable list from Republican politicians.

But I'm out for the weekend. Have fun!

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I just may do that.
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And all of those hateful statements from Republicans or Democrats achieve exactly what...?
Good question, i'm waiting for a good answer too.
The statements seem to be "washington style mud-wrestling"
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As much as I'm waiting for an intelligent Democrat to step up to the plate, I'm still waiting for an intelligent Republican.

My first thought exactly. It goes both ways.
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Here it is.. the canditate you were waiting for:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3102039.stm

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He is the complete outsider - no hoper, in fact - being pressed to join the 2004 race for the White House, the politician who wowed the US Congress while facing increasingly testing times closer to home.

The car stickers, mugs and t-shirts are on sale. The campaign team is up and running. You can even sign the petition urging him to stand.

Yes, the campaign to take Tony Blair from Downing Street to Washington, ousting his pal George Bush along the way, has begun - tongue firmly in cheek, of course.

That's not to say that Jim Bursch, founder of the Blair 2004 campaign, isn't an admirer of the prime minister. He is - very much so...
http://www.blair2004.com/
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LMAO...YES! Get him out of this country - we don't want him!
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FizzingWhizzbees: that reminds me on the last election campaign here..

Our chancelor said "We understand that you (Bavarians) are tired of Mr Stoiber (the conservative candidate who is also ministerpresident of Bavaria) - but there are other ways to get rid of him then to vote for him now (so that he has to leave for Berlin) - just don't vote for him now and don't vote for him in the next local election campaign
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