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Old 11-22-2005, 09:21 PM   #1
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God Bless 'em, hope they do well.

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when Jesus said love your enemies, I think he was being a little over-simplistic.

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Jesus was a simpleton?
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:14 AM   #6
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Seems to me Christianity is a hard religion when you realize you have to turn your instincts upside down. Easier to justify it than to face it. Easier just to look for enemies than to look at
ourselves. Easier to follow those parts of the Bible that already fit our philosophies and behaviors and biases, read those parts that give us comfort, but don't make us uncomfortable.

I direct this to no one here. I don't know how you practice your religion. I don't know what difficulties you have to face, what turnarounds you've had to make, how you struggle to meet your faith. I know it's a continuing journey. I respect those who struggle with it and triumph. I'm a little suspect of those who find it easy.

But I've seen the attitude in my first paragraph in too many people who call themselves Christians. I know how easy it is to find a text that seems to support ANY view I might have.

Christianity should be a revolution of action and of thought. I can't meet the standard. But I think Jesus's teachings made it
pretty clear what the standards are.
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i say amen to BonosSaint
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Re: The Religious Left

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What do the religous left believe?
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What do the religious left believe?
That being a Christian is more than gay bashing, anti-abortion rhetoric, and voting for Bush.

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That being a Christian is more than gay bashing, anti-abortion rhetoric, and voting for Bush.

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Can you add a comment on the first two?

I always vote Libertarian.
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Just as sanctimonious as the RR and not half as funny.
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:37 PM   #12
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Religious Left

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Can you add a comment on the first two?

I always vote Libertarian.
Sure. The Religious Right, by definition, seems to measure one's Christianity on the basis of being anti-gay and anti-abortion, whereas everything else doesn't matter. I mean, do the Christian Coalition voter guides really care about anything besides those two issues? No.

The Religious Left puts more emphasis on "Love one another" and the philosophical meaning of that. And since the meaning of that philosophy is open to interpretation, that's probably why they get mislabeled as "wishy-washy." The emphasis is more on personal conscience, rather than trying to enforce a specific viewpoint upon everyone.

True libertarians probably don't qualify as part of the Religious Right, because the RR insists on legislating all of their religious beliefs as if no other religion is worthy of belief or existence. "Religious freedom" only enters their vocabulary when dealing with foreign countries where the RR is a minority.

Anyway, that's my rather bitter interpretation of the state of religion these days, so forgive me if I'm too acidic here. Self-identified members of the Religious Right that disagree with the Christian Taliban element of American politics today are more than welcome to comment on what the "Religious Right" means to them.

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What do the religous left believe?
Probably very similar things to what jesus is claimed to have believed. You know, that everyone is equal and needs to be acknowledged and treated as such, that rights and the basics are and should be for everyone. That dispersement to assist overall good is better than pandering. That thou shalt not kill, regardless of guilt or sin on soul etc. Let God work all that out with unborn babies, and vicious killers, and everyone in between. That no one's beliefs or rights will come at a cost to another's. Poverty must be overcome. All mankind should endeavour to help one another. Arrogance shall not dictate.
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amen to angela harlem.....i think i should just be that loud guy in the congregation that just randomly yells, "amen!" and "hallelujah!"
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Blessings! BonosSaint and Angela Harlem got it right.
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