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Old 03-23-2003, 04:47 PM   #16
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We're not cancelling our elections.

No, we can leave that to appointed majorities on the supreme court.
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No, we can leave that to appointed majorities on the supreme court.
Yeah, and the Justice Dept.
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Just like a certain country of cheese-eating surrender monkeys wants to do.
Can we please not generalize on the French as well.

Some people find it highly offensive.

Just trying to keep the peace...
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if people think we should invade Iraq because Saddam is a bad man, fine. But I'm sick of Pres. Bush using the deaths of 3000 Americans as an excuse to bomb Iraq. These were innocent people that died and their deaths had nothing to do with Iraq or Saddam. The US government still has not brought forth real and legitimate proof that Saddam and al Qaeda have a direct connection. Bush just needed an excuse and dumb americans never questioned it.
Why did al-Qaeda attack us on 9/11?

See, even if there are no ties between Iraq and al-Qaeda there is a link. The answer is in the question I asked above.
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Dread, I'd like to know the answer.
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And Americans wonder why people think they're stupid, xenophobic, and anti-Islamic...
Just because you don't know of links between al-Qaeda and Iraq or between Palestine and Iraq doesn't mean they don't exist.

al-Qaeda hates the US primarily because we maintain troops in Saudi Arabia. They've said this over and over again.

The reason the troops are in Saudi Arabia is because they were invited by the royal family to protect them from Iraq. Saudi Arabia may publicly denounce the war, but they've never asked these troops to leave. So that's one al-Qaeda-Iraq connection. As for actual reports of collaboration between al-Qaeda and Iraq such as this one, they haven't been established firmly enough to legitimize the war in the court of public opinion, but I'd be willing to wager a large sum of money that such connections will be revealed once Saddam is gone.

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And as for protecting Israel...well, it seems to me that since one out of every 25 words Saddam speaks on TV is the word "Zionist," he's got it in for Israel.

And there were the Scuds Iraq fired towards Israel during the Gulf War for no apparent reason.

And there are the generous donations that Saddam gives to families of Palestinians who have lost loved ones in the struggle against Israel. In other words, the cash payoffs to families of homicide bombers.
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al-Qaeda hates the US primarily because we maintain troops in Saudi Arabia. They've said this over and over again.

The reason the troops are in Saudi Arabia is because they were invited by the royal family to protect them from Iraq. Saudi Arabia may publicly denounce the war, but they've never asked these troops to leave. So that's one al-Qaeda-Iraq connection. As for actual reports of collaboration between al-Qaeda and Iraq, they haven't been established firmly enough to legitimize the war in the court of public opinion, but I'd be willing to wager a large sum of money that such connections will be revealed once Saddam is gone.

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And there are the generous donations that Saddam gives to families of Palestinians who have lost loved ones in the struggle against Israel. In other words, the cash payoffs to families of homicide bombers.
Exactly.....So al-Qaeda is upset that we have troops in their Holy Land. Now, why does Saudi Arabia and Kuwait need to have US Troops in the area?
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As for actual reports of collaboration between al-Qaeda and Iraq, they haven't been established firmly enough to legitimize the war in the court of public opinion, but I'd be willing to wager a large sum of money that such connections will be revealed once Saddam is gone.


Perhaps such connections will be revealed, but they haven't as of yet -- and that's the problem. President Bush repeatedly invoked 9-11 in at least one of his speeches aimed at furthering his case to bomb Iraq. In that respect, I'd call the President's conduct shamefully deceiving.
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Exactly.....So al-Qaeda is upset that we have troops in their Holy Land. Now, why does Saudi Arabia and Kuwait need to have US Troops in the area?
To protect the regimes (Saudi and Kuwait) from being over thrown by there own people.
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To protect the regimes (Saudi and Kuwait) from being over thrown by there own people.
Possibly a good thing as well, because if it weren't so, there's a good chance that there'd be two even more fundamentalist Islamist regimes in place.
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thing is its actually none of America's business how other countries are run

Just because I dont know of links between the Devil and George Bush doesnt mean they dont exist. You can speculate all you want

Fact is your opinion is completely one-sided+
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thing is its actually none of America's business how other countries are run

Have you thought out the full ramifications of this statement?
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Bush personifies the American quest for absolute security. Americans don't yet understand or care that this status can only be achieved by making everybody else absolutely insecure.
This is the problem. There's nothing inherently wrong about this quest, but there is a misguided quality to it that makes the rest of the world (and quite a few Americans too) pretty nervous about the future.
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Possibly a good thing as well, because if it weren't so, there's a good chance that there'd be two even more fundamentalist Islamist regimes in place.
But...isn't there an argument that if the people of those countries chose to have a fundamentalist Islamic government then it wouldn't be any of the US' business to dictate otherwise?
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But...isn't there an argument that if the people of those countries chose to have a fundamentalist Islamic government then it wouldn't be any of the US' business to dictate otherwise?
Certainly. But I doubt that the "people" would really want to have a fundamentalist Islamist government. There may be some popular support for such a government in Saudi Arabia and other areas, but I don't think that it's the majority sentiment. It's just that the people who do support fundamentalist rule there probably have more physical power than the rest of the populace.

The time certainly will come when the US must demand reforms in the current Saudi regime. Probably this time came long ago.
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