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Old 03-19-2007, 01:58 PM   #16
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I think it's a great, visually arresting piece and completely appropriate for the exhibit. I vaguely remember reading about the controversy when it was showed in Pennsylvania a few years back; there were several articles about a power struggle of sorts going on within the Sons of Confederate Veterans (which is for veterans' male descendants, not literally their sons of course ) at the time. Historically the focus of the group had been maintaining Southern Civil War sites, cemeteries, etc. but it was coming under strong influence from 'revisionist' and, in some cases, openly white supremacist groups who wanted it to take a more activist role.
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I would not want to fly it on a flag pole, but have it displayed in a museum that covers the subject of the south ceseding from the Union and the begining and end of the civil war.
And it will, and honestly that's the only place it should be hung. Unfortunately you'll still find it on flagpoles, mudflaps, tattooed on redneck's asses, and t-shirts all over the south.
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And it will, and honestly that's the only place it should be hung. Unfortunately you'll still find it on flagpoles, mudflaps, tattooed on redneck's asses, and t-shirts all over the south.
Thats true, Going on a limb here, but isn't that their culture that they want to remember? Even though the mentalitly of it is wrong. Some say the civil war was not about slavery but a states right to succed from the union as it says in the constitution?
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Thats true, Going on a limb here, but isn't that their culture that they want to remember? Even though the mentalitly of it is wrong. Some say the civil war was not about slavery but a states right to succed from the union as it says in the constitution?
Should we allow people to live in ignorance?
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If they chose to live in ignorance, who are we to change them? Like I can't change you to belive my belife correct. I would never support slavery or that flag, but if they chose to live that way. If they want to change, they must do it for themselves, other wise if we made them or forced them we would be a police state.
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Some say the civil war was not about slavery but a states right to succed from the union as it says in the constitution?
The reality is

that the Southern States only seceded because of their desire to protect and maintain slavery(period).


How many free (non-slave) states seceded?
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But how many North States supported freeing the slaves?
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If they chose to live in ignorance, who are we to change them? Like I can't change you to belive my belife correct. I would never support slavery or that flag, but if they chose to live that way. If they want to change, they must do it for themselves, other wise if we made them or forced them we would be a police state.
So you think the programs here in Germany to get people out of the Neo-Nazi or Skinheade scene out are wrong?

You can't abolish something and think everybody stops to think that way.
but it's important to try to get them think about what they believe and change their mind. That's nothing to do with a police state.
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If they chose to live in ignorance, who are we to change them? Like I can't change you to belive my belife correct. I would never support slavery or that flag, but if they chose to live that way. If they want to change, they must do it for themselves, other wise if we made them or forced them we would be a police state.
Of course they can live in ignorance, and if they want to hang it on their property then do so. Just don't hang it at my courthouse or wear it in my schools.
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Of course they can live in ignorance, and if they want to hang it on their property then do so. Just don't hang it at my courthouse or wear it in my schools.
I totally agree with that.
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That's actually a clever piece of art.
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That's actually a clever piece of art.
Yup
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Re: Re: "The Proper Way To Hang A Confederate Flag"

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Wow, these guys must be old.
There is a Son's of Union Veterans organization as well. At this point the organization in the town I live in is made up of grandchildren. They have a building that is about 100+ years old that I have been helping restore. The artifacts in this hall are outstanding.
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Yeah, I figured it could hardly be the sons.

Thank you Yolland and Dreadsox
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