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Old 09-22-2005, 12:08 PM   #76
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As am I.

Am I saying that the government should be channeling all of its resources into this area....

No....

Do I believe that it should not be monitored to some extent.

Absolutely....


well here we have our common ground.

and such things *are* monitored, right now, by the government.
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That is a huge "IF" to toss aside the subject. If there is in essense a form of sex slave trade encompassing those in the porn industry who are not giving true consent, would you want that investigated and stopped?
If it can be proven that it's happening, then yes, somebody should step in somewhere. You pointed out that not all who are victimized by that sort of thing will be willing to step forward, therefore making it harder to know it's happening, which is true-you are right, that can be an obstacle. But at the same time, if that sort of thing is indeed happening, eventually somebody will slip up somewhere and things will slowly start coming out about it. And once we're sure that is what's going on, then the appropriate measures can be taken to stop it.

I guess I just worry about the government nosing in because somebody somewhere can use this as an excuse to try and completely ban pornography from occurring, period, that they'll punish all people involved for the illegal activities of a few, or something else along those lines. If they feel they need to investigate certain things, fine, but I would think that, just like with everything else, there'd have to be probable cause to investigate that sort of thing. I hope this all makes some sense, if not, let me know.

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If it can be proven that it's happening, then yes, somebody should step in somewhere. You pointed out that not all who are victimized by that sort of thing will be willing to step forward, therefore making it harder to know it's happening, which is true-you are right, that can be an obstacle. But at the same time, if that sort of thing is indeed happening, eventually somebody will slip up somewhere and things will slowly start coming out about it. And once we're sure that is what's going on, then the appropriate measures can be taken to stop it.
As I read the initial article, it seems that this is part of the intent of the FBI task force. Not to jump into living rooms where people are viewing porn, but to investigate the harmful practices that may take place while the porn is produced.
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As I read the initial article, it seems that this is part of the intent of the FBI task force. Not to jump into living rooms where people are viewing porn, but to investigate the harmful practices that may take place while the porn is produced.


yes, but it is an investigation into legal pornography consumed by adults. not child porn.

i'm not denying that bad things may happen in the world of pornography. i'm just saying that it shouldn't take 10 FBI agents away from far more pressing issues.
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So how many agents? Legal porn is available fromt his keypad....

yet....

I would venture that some of the legal porn apparently has not been legal based on your own article.
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yes, but it is an investigation into legal pornography consumed by adults. not child porn.

i'm not denying that bad things may happen in the world of pornography. i'm just saying that it shouldn't take 10 FBI agents away from far more pressing issues.
I don't think we need to get graphic, but it may be as simple as a women being filmed doing more sexual acts than her original consent. As a crime, it would be rape. If it is happening, I'd like to see it stopped. And it won't be stopped unless we make it a priority.
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I don't think we need to get graphic, but it may be as simple as a women being filmed doing more sexual acts than her original consent. As a crime, it would be rape. If it is happening, I'd like to see it stopped. And it won't be stopped unless we make it a priority.


to be a bit graphic, from what i've read, women are paid per sex act. oral sex is worth X amount of dollars, vaginal something more, anal something even more. i don't think, at least in mainstream, adult porn, that women are forced to do more than their contract stipulates.

if anything, i'd view this as a wider societal problem -- the fact that women earn, what is it, .$73 to every dollar a man makes? perhaps economic necessity forces some women into porn? that, to me, is a much more pressing issue than was outlined in the article.

i do wonder if there's a porn union? there must be ... it's a huge industry, and i can't imagine that there aren't worker protections. the industry goes to tremendous lengths to protect the actors from STDs, so why wouldn't it be in their best interests to make sure their stars -- and people pay to see big names as much as people pay to see Julia Roberts in a movie -- are happy and healthy.
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