Irvine511
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Dreadsox said:
what that for me, or at the fact that many of the products we enjoy were made under deplorable conditions?
Dreadsox said:
Dreadsox said:Irvine...
I think we have no common ground....
Irvine511 said:
i'm sorry you think that.
from this thread, i don't see how you could draw that conclusion.
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where's the christianist outrage on that?
Dreadsox said:
That is where my concern is. I could give two shits if someone is looking at Playboy. However.....if Joe shmo is making videos of girls in mini skirts at the mall without there consent...then I do expect the government to be proactive.
MrsSpringsteen said:
I agree, I do think something should be done about that. That is outrageous and most definitely criminal in my mind. A total despicable invasion of a girl's/woman's privacy and a gross violation of their dignity to say the least..
Dreadsox said:
Maybe I think that because of comments like the one above and I am hardly a conservative Christian.
If every thread is going to turn into a thread used to vent disdain towards the Christian right....it gets old.
Your point may be valid, but it had NOTHING to do with my attempt at seeking a common point on which all could stand in the thread.
Your point also does not invalidate that there may be some truth to the position of the "christian" community on this topic.
I feel that while some members of the forum may very clearly have been wounded more deeply than I could ever understand by a portion of the Christian community.......I do not see why every thread has to deteriorate into comments like the one above. Is it too difficult to stick to a topic and seek common ground?
Dreadsox said:[Q]"Based on a review of past successful cases in a variety of jurisdictions," the memo said, the best odds of conviction come with pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior." No word on the universe of other kinks that helps make porn a multibillion-dollar industry.
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SO from the part of the article, not put out.......
Why wouldn't you want your governement to make certain that people are not being illegally video taped doing these things....
Which, I find interesting that it was mysteriously absent from the initial posting.......Maybe because we would like to lead the thread in a certain direction?
If this is the type of pornography that they are looking at following up on, then, why shouldn't I want them making sure my wife was not being illegally taped, my daughter, my students?
Why NOT?
Dreadsox said:That is where my concern is. I could give two shits if someone is looking at Playboy. However.....if Joe shmo is making videos of girls in mini skirts at the mall without there consent...then I do expect the government to be proactive.
Irvine511 said:however, there are some people who participate in porn films that involve the above activities, and it is entirely consensual and they are paid to do so. while i have absolutely no interest in ever watching any of the mentioned activities, i don't think that they should be illegal.
Irvine511 said:
oh Dread.
nbcrusader said:
Is it entirely consensual every time?
I am surprised by the lack of concern if there is non-consensual acts taking place in the porn industry.
Dreadsox said:
And this is as far as I read.
nbcrusader said:
Is it entirely consensual every time?
I am surprised by the lack of concern if there is non-consensual acts taking place in the porn industry.
Dreadsox said:
As am I.
Am I saying that the government should be channeling all of its resources into this area....
No....
Do I believe that it should not be monitored to some extent.
Absolutely....
nbcrusader said:That is a huge "IF" to toss aside the subject. If there is in essense a form of sex slave trade encompassing those in the porn industry who are not giving true consent, would you want that investigated and stopped?
Moonlit_Angel said:If it can be proven that it's happening, then yes, somebody should step in somewhere. You pointed out that not all who are victimized by that sort of thing will be willing to step forward, therefore making it harder to know it's happening, which is true-you are right, that can be an obstacle. But at the same time, if that sort of thing is indeed happening, eventually somebody will slip up somewhere and things will slowly start coming out about it. And once we're sure that is what's going on, then the appropriate measures can be taken to stop it.
nbcrusader said:
As I read the initial article, it seems that this is part of the intent of the FBI task force. Not to jump into living rooms where people are viewing porn, but to investigate the harmful practices that may take place while the porn is produced.
Irvine511 said:yes, but it is an investigation into legal pornography consumed by adults. not child porn.
i'm not denying that bad things may happen in the world of pornography. i'm just saying that it shouldn't take 10 FBI agents away from far more pressing issues.
nbcrusader said:
I don't think we need to get graphic, but it may be as simple as a women being filmed doing more sexual acts than her original consent. As a crime, it would be rape. If it is happening, I'd like to see it stopped. And it won't be stopped unless we make it a priority.