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Old 03-09-2004, 08:34 AM   #241
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I don't know if I mentioned this, but I never winced once in the film. Have I grown desensitized to film violence? All I could do was admire the simulations of violence and gawk at the great makeup job they did. I also then wondered how I could set up a prop to spew blood the same way in a film of my own someday.

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My guess is you're not desensitized as much as you are viewing a movie from a director's point of view (you mentioned somewhere directing theater). So it makes sense to be amazed at the make up job & blood simulation.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:12 AM   #242
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My guess is you're not desensitized as much as you are viewing a movie from a director's point of view (you mentioned somewhere directing theater). So it makes sense to be amazed at the make up job & blood simulation.
Close...I'm working to be a movie/TV director/producer someday. I'm working on an approximately 25 minute piece this summer.

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Old 03-09-2004, 11:24 AM   #243
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So should we start making snuff films documenting every gory detail of violent gay bashings, slave lynchings, document every painful procedure that an AIDS of cancer patient suffers for 5 years just to pay respect for these people's suffering? The torture had such a small role in Jesus life why are we making movies like this? Jesus was not the only person to go through this type of torture, in fact many men have suffered more, should we make films about them? Why focus on this? Now I'm not being cold about Christ's suffering, believe me I will never take that for granted, but what does one gain from this portrayal?

So should we start making snuff films documenting every gory detail of violent gay bashings, slave lynchings, document every painful procedure that an AIDS of cancer patient suffers for 5 years just to pay respect for these people's suffering?



Even the people who do not support this film, non Christians, agnostics, etc. do not minimize Christ suffering.


If Christ were here today he would not minimize the suffering of the people you mentioned. He would be first to give them aid and comfort, without conditions.
Sadly many who profess to believe in him seem indifferent to the tragedies you listed.
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Old 03-10-2004, 08:48 AM   #244
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Even the people who do not support this film, non Christians, agnostics, etc. do not minimize Christ suffering.



I think many question the divinity of Christ here.

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Old 03-10-2004, 10:17 AM   #245
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Even the people who do not support this film, non Christians, agnostics, etc. do not minimize Christ suffering.



I think many question the divinity of Christ here.

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Can you not question his divinity and still realize his suffering?
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Can you not question his divinity and still realize his suffering?
there in lies the problem with the believers, if a person relegates Christ's suffering down to Christ he being a mere mortal this adds insult to injury.


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Old 03-10-2004, 02:36 PM   #247
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there in lies the problem with the believers, if a person relegates Christ's suffering down to Christ he being a mere mortal this adds insult to injury.


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Maybe I'm being thick here, but how, can you elaborate.
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:09 PM   #248
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ref- Matt 6 v8

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Old 03-10-2004, 03:16 PM   #249
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Oooooohhhhh yeah that clears up everything.
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:20 PM   #250
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:28 PM   #251
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I don't see how either of the verses you've referred to make your argument any clearer. Maybe I'm being stupid, but could you possibly just a post a sentence or two to explain a bit more?
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Forget it. If you aren't going to elaborate on your comment then you are wasting my time. I understand the versus, I'm glad you know your Bible, but these versus don't answer the question of if one relegates Christ's suffering down to Christ he being a mere mortal this adds insult to injury?

If you aren't going to answer then please don't waste our time.
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Matthew 15

8" 'These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.




this does not describe people who accept Jesus suffering AND have reahed no conclusion about his "divinity".



It better describes someone who professes to be a believer BUT does not follow his teachings i. e. caring about the suffering of the aforementioned
" violent gay bashings, slave lynchings, document every painful procedure that an AIDS of cancer patient suffers for 5 years "
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