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Old 11-08-2006, 03:34 PM   #271
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bush is trying to speak on tv now.
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:36 PM   #272
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Speaking as someone who voted straight Republican ticket except one official write-in independent, I agree. By voting Republican, I was voting for whom I feel is the less "sucky" of the two parties. Evidently, the majority of voting America did not agree with me, and felt that it was time for a change. I think that many would have voted for Pee Wee Herman instead of the Republicans. How bad they must have failed in ordre for that to be true. Idiots started out with a Republican majority and did absolutely nothing. They only have themselves to blame for this loss.

The one consolation I have is that, for the most part, it was moderate and conservative Dems who made the gains, not liberals like Pelosi, Feinstein, and Kennedy (although even "moderate" is too liberal for me).

The biggest disappointment for me during this entire election is that South Dakota had it within their grasp to end the murder of babies in their state and voted it down. That breaks my heart and makes my blood boil at the same time.
I agree, all anyone thought was we want 'change' but like you say they would have voted Pee Wee Herman just to get something different. But it is not different, it's the same old guard recycled again and again, it only depends on who's the pariah of the moment, then they vote the other way. In the end, nothing changes, and there is nothing to celebrate. We ALL lose. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, and the ones before that, and back again, in circles, going nowhere.
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:52 PM   #273
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I agree, all anyone thought was we want 'change' but like you say they would have voted Pee Wee Herman just to get something different. But it is not different, it's the same old guard recycled again and again, it only depends on who's the pariah of the moment, then they vote the other way. In the end, nothing changes, and there is nothing to celebrate. We ALL lose. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, and the ones before that, and back again, in circles, going nowhere.
Wow...you're more of the glass is half empty types, eh?

But if the future seems so bleak, then why bother voting at all? Why even run for office?
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bush is trying to speak on tv now.
I love the way you put that.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:12 PM   #275
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But if the future seems so bleak, then why bother voting at all? Why even run for office?
I didn't and I won't. Not as long as all we have are Rep. and Dem.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:16 PM   #276
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I didn't and I won't. Not as long as all we have are Rep. and Dem.
That's not all, there are a few Independents out there.
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I love the way you put that.
well giving his addresses is such a struggle for him.


i was laughing out loud at some of his comments about rummy.
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I really cannot imagine the Democrats bothering to impeach Bush. He's a severely lame duck now. (I know from precedent it is possible that Republicans think that every party who seizes control after being a long time out of power wants to squander the first several years trying to impeach the opposition President, lol) I do suspect some investigations will go down.

When the Republicans took control of the House in 1995, they had been out of power there for, like, 40 years. I can understand their giddiness in thinking they'd just been anointed. The Democrats haven't been out of power that long so they don't have that excuse.

And I hope the Democrats are a lot cleverer this time around. The voters didn't vote for Democrats. They voted for change. The Democrats didn't win the House as much as the GOP lost it.
And the Democrats have a very small window of opportunity to show that they are going to be a party for change, not rhetoric.
And I suggest they spend the next couple of weeks laying out a cohesive plan. The Democrats didn't run on a cohesive plan, but they're going to have to legislate with one.

The voters just flexed their political muscle and I think they liked it. I doubt if they are going to be very patient and I don't think they'll hesitate to toss out the Democrats too if they are nothing more than shallow words. OK, election nights are the nights for dumb, shallow speeches, so I'll give them a pass for a day or two. But I haven't been particularly happy with the Democrats' statements so far. They've had 12 years to regroup and we better see the fruits of that pretty quickly. You can't talk change. You have to effect it and I think they will be under scrutiny to effect it and they don't have too much time to do it. They have the voters' interest now. They best maintain it. They're going to have to work up the country with a vision. The country was hungry for a vision. They were willing to take a bad vision than no vision at all. The country is still hungry.

Don't blow it.
agree with every word of this post.

I'm reeeeally excited about the results of this election, but I'm already nervous to see whether they can actually- say- put together a cohesive image/policy? I know that'd be a lot to ask of them.

Still this combined with rummy stepping down is certainly refreshing.
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Pressure is being put on Allen by republicans to concede.
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:35 PM   #281
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Pressure is being put on Allen by republicans to concede.
It would be nice if he did, just to kill any lingering anxiety I(and many others) might have.

We got the Senate and the House back.

Now we just need the White House back.
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Pressure is being put on Allen by republicans to concede.


wow, u2d!!! and Helllllooooo!!!
I got here about 20 mins ago.....and rachel Maddow {air america} was talking to someone in Web's campaign {i think} and he was explaining how the canvasing process will work.
This must have come in later...but she was in the middle of the interview that started around 7:15P.

but, shit, if he does concede...............

I wanted to get here soooooooo much earlier today to Celebrate, but i'm getting over a sinus thing and it's all windy and rainy here.
I couldn't ake it anymore had to come and celebrate!


........

and
i only had time to read this page and can't read the whole
thread tonight {i am at libraRY}

but i can see already that some of you are WAYYYYYYYY too cynical !


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heyyyy dazzled

Quote from Bay Buchanan:
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If this thing were to just flip, and ended up George Allen winning it, you're gonna have resentment going on across this country, it's gonna be deeply felt as if we stole the Senate, not only that particular seat but the Senate itself.
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Republicans Will Pressure Allen... Soon
Top Republicans in Washington will give Sen. George Allen a few days to take stock of his legal and political options before beginning to pressure him to concede to James Webb. Senior Republican officials and White House aides believe that Webb won the race. Several outside advisers to Allen want him to make the decision quickly; others in his campaign want to make sure that there's no chance a cache of new votes will turn up. One question: when will (will?) the AP call the race? [MARC AMBINDER]




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AP says that Webb has won it, according to MSNBC.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/08/D8L989700.html
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One question: when will (will?) the AP call the race?
Oh, about 5 minutes ago actually .

edit: ntalwar beat me to it
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