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Old 09-18-2006, 12:22 PM   #1
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The Nobel - should we even take it seriously?

All Nobel Peace Prize Laureates from 1990-2005

2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2000 - Kim Dae-jung
1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières
1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
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Should any award be taken seriously? Grammy, Emmy, Oscar they've all had questionable moments...
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Should any award be taken seriously? Grammy, Emmy, Oscar they've all had questionable moments...
I guess you have a point there.
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of the 15 or 16 choices you have there, you've highlighted three I'm guessing you find questionable. Fine, now, eliminate those and look at the others on the list. That should answer your question.
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BUT...

In theory, The Nobel Peace Prize sends a message to the entire world, for better or worse, on who is (supposedly) making the world a safer place to live in.

It matters to the people who follow it, and to the people who are doing whatever it takes in order to earn this badge of merit.
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of the 15 or 16 choices you have there, you've highlighted three I'm guessing you find questionable. Fine, now, eliminate those and look at the others on the list. That should answer your question.
I bolded those I found the most questionable because they have been given a prize that they don't deserve, in my opinion. I figured it would spark a debate, but oh well.

But many people find the Nobel relevant regardless of who wins it. After looking at the winners, I cannot take it seriously anymore than I take Michael Moore seriously.
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There's not a perfect award. BVS has a point.
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There's not a perfect award. BVS has a point.
On this I agree, but I take it one step further.

Considering the people who have been given the award, it should be taken as an insult.
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I know why they gave it to Mikhail Gorbachev. It was the year after the Berlin Wall became history and they thought he deserved some of the credit for not invading Poland or any other Warsaw Pact country. Of course Russia became an absolute hellhole, and the award was very controversial.
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I bolded those I found the most questionable because they have been given a prize that they don't deserve, in my opinion
Why didn't Jimmy Carter deserve it?
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If we're not going to take it seriously, the alternative would be to not have the award. I don't think that's a good idea.

It should be taken serioulsy, but as it's been said it's not always going to be perfect. The three you highlighted though, what was the reasoning for their awards? Who were the other top candidates?
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Why didn't Jimmy Carter deserve it?
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2002/index.html

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"for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development"
Huh?

Peaceful solutions to international conflicts like bribing Kim Jong Il with money so he doesn't build nukes. He built them. Jimmy Carter did not make the world a safer place.

Advancing democracy by allowing more nations to fall to communism. He didn't advance democracy, he defamed it.

Human rights, such as his recent position against abortion?

Economic development? The unemployment rate under Jimmy Carter was hardly any better than France's current unemployment rate.

Social development, sure, if you want evolution indoctrination.
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It should be taken serioulsy, but as it's been said it's not always going to be perfect. The three you highlighted though, what was the reasoning for their awards? Who were the other top candidates?
We can start with Ronald Reagan, who ended the Cold War. Apparently his tough talk about the Evil Empire was too hawkish for the NPP?
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