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Old 09-18-2006, 01:51 PM   #31
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His inaction did a lot for the spread of AIDS in America.
This is a weakness on his behalf, and this isn't the first time I've said it. But while we're at it, the current view that heterosexuals can get it just as easily is false. Also, the cause of government funding of heart disease - a bigger killer - is much lower than the funding to stop AIDS.

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And his administration played a huge part in the amount of nuclear arms in the world today.
Be specific.
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But while we're at it, the current view that heterosexuals can get it just as easily is false.
By the end of 2005, women accounted for 48% of all adults living with HIV worldwide, and for 59% in sub-Saharan Africa. You think they got this from Lesbian sex? Check your facts, take a look at real science sources sometimes.

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Be specific.
What's to be specific about, the majority of nukes in this world came from the arms race Reagan played in the 80's. Let's not forget the part he played in arming the Middle East.
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By the end of 2005, women accounted for 48% of all adults living with HIV worldwide, and for 59% in sub-Saharan Africa. You think they got this from Lesbian sex? Check your facts, take a look at real science sources sometimes.
It's a much different story in third world countries. Some of them believe that sex with animals cures diseases. That's why you have to consider it on a national basis as well.


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What's to be specific about, the majority of nukes in this world came from the arms race Reagan played in the 80's. Let's not forget the part he played in arming the Middle East.
We were in a non-traditional war with the Soviet Union, and the objective was to antimidate them through the space race, and the nuclear race. Reagan should be given the peace prize for his "Star Wars" defense program.

And on the Middle East, there was a dilemma. I've said how I don't hold Clinton entirely accountable for not killing Osama when he had the chance because he was surrounded by women and children, and he would've faced a scandal back home for doing so. I see the Iran-Contra Affair the same way. He did what he had to do to save the hostages, under the dilemma.
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It's a much different story in third world countries. Some of them believe that sex with animals cures diseases. That's why you have to consider it on a national basis as well.
So heterosexual sex is different in developing countries?

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We were in a non-traditional war with the Soviet Union, and the objective was to antimidate them through the space race, and the nuclear race. Reagan should be given the peace prize for his "Star Wars" defense program.

And on the Middle East, there was a dilemma. I've said how I don't hold Clinton entirely accountable for not killing Osama when he had the chance because he was surrounded by women and children, and he would've faced a scandal back home for doing so. I see the Iran-Contra Affair the same way. He did what he had to do to save the hostages, under the dilemma.
And you consider all of this Nobel Peace prize worthy?
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:16 PM   #35
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Wangari Maathai.

Isn't she the one who claimed that AIDS was invention of the West to keep Africa in servitude or something like that?
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This is a weakness on his behalf, and this isn't the first time I've said it. But while we're at it, the current view that heterosexuals can get it just as easily is false.


i'm sure all those African women -- and African-American women -- are relived to hear this.
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Reagan's Central American policy employed too much military power and not enough democracy or diplomacy.
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Oops. I goofed. In my post I said that the conservative Sandinists opposition had done the nasty undemocratic things. That was actually the Sandinistas who broke their promises to run the country in a democratic fashion.
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Reagan, given the Nobel Peace Price for his star wars missile defense program. *LOL*
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This thread - should we even take it seriously? This just reads like flame-bait after a while.

The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by a Norwegian committee, and Norway is about as leftist of a country as it gets. If you're expecting American conservatives to get awarded a prize, because FOX News says so, you're kidding yourself.

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This thread - should we even take it seriously? This just reads like flame-bait after a while.

The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by a Norwegian committee, and Norway is about as leftist of a country as it gets. If you're expecting American conservatives to get awarded a prize, because FOX News says so, you're kidding yourself.

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I agree - but I'm not sure why you had to throw that "because FOX News says so" in there.
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I agree - but I'm not sure why you had to throw that "because FOX News says so" in there.
I guess I'm a bit frustrated at what I'd call "flame-bait" threads lately. FYM is starting to read like a push poll, rather than an earnest attempt at dialogue.

So forgive me if I lose my stoic composure here and there.

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It's a much different story in third world countries. Some of them believe that sex with animals cures diseases. That's why you have to consider it on a national basis as well.
"Third world countries"? Heterosexual sex is noted as the main cause of AIDS in every country, minus the U.S.--and even then, I question how much of this statistical anomaly is due to prejudice. That aside, even in the U.S., the fastest growing segment of HIV positive people are women and African Americans.

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We were in a non-traditional war with the Soviet Union, and the objective was to antimidate them through the space race, and the nuclear race. Reagan should be given the peace prize for his "Star Wars" defense program.
Reagan wouldn't have received a peace prize for something that never existed. The preliminary aspects of the SDI ended up being a multi-million dollar handout to corporations before being scrapped due to lack of feasibility. Even today, the space-based aspect of Bush's missile defense program is tremendously infeasible.

Reagan's legacy ultimately did not bring us world peace, so if you believe that Mikhail Gorbachev doesn't deserve the prize, then neither does Reagan. On this logic, we should give the peace prize to the Afghani mujahideen that was successful in bankrupting the Soviet Union in the 1980s.

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I would like to hear why there have been so many Nobels (physics, literature, economics, medicine, peace) and so few awarded to Muslims?

Are their efforts and participation these fields being ignored by the Norwegian committee?
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I would like to hear why there have been so many Nobels (physics, literature, economics, medicine, peace) and so few awarded to Muslims?

Are their efforts and participation these fields being ignored by the Norwegian committee?


i'm also dismayed as to the lack of Somalians. and Mongolians. and North Koreans.
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