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Old 11-28-2006, 09:41 PM   #121
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Unless Bailey lets me attach a flashlight to his head,
If you try this, I want to see the video, please.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:53 AM   #122
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bloody hell

in regards to some discussion taking place in this thread...

you either celebrate christmas or you don't. i don't participate in jewish and muslim rituals, but i couldn't care less if they shouted what they belived in from the rooftops or not. freedom of speech for them, freedom of speech for everyone else.

christmas was originally celebrated for various reasons, none of which had to do with santa or commercialism.

the real offense is the shameless consumerism that takes place this time of the year.

again... people bitch and complain about everything.

i can't get over how easily people are offended. clearly they haven't spent enough time with me.

you'll never satisfy everyone, so piss off, i say. life is short. way too short to be offended by everything that you "maybe should, on the grounds of political correctness."

that's my annual rant on the matter that probably makes sense to noone, but i couldn't give a shit if it does or doesn't.

merry christmas

now go to walmart and finish your holiday shopping as any last remaining sense of irony bleeds through you and your wallet at one of the 27 sterile tills they have on hand.
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season's greetings!

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Just popping in to share this song. I started reading the thread, thought of it and wanted to share..

Mary's Song
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:03 PM   #125
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Having seen the film, I can say that it's extraordinary. Catherine Hardwicke's done a great job as a director, and the material is treated with both reverence and respect. Of particular note is the treatment of the main characters -- Mary and Joseph are fleshed out particularly well, with Mary an average 14 year old girl who must suddenly contend with a destiny not of her choosing (but incredibly significant), and Joseph a righteous man caught between two worlds. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it.
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Justin 24 - Thanks for answering my page one: "HUH?".
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cnn.com review, "greatest story ever dulled". Maybe they wish Sofia Coppola had directed it

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ity/index.html
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it's not getting great reviews, but i'm sure that people will enjoy it tremendously, and it make me feel better that millions of people will find this movie spiritually exalting, as opposed to the appaling, ultra-violent Gibson snuff film from a few years back.
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Agreed. I am going to see this but I have never seen Passion Of The Christ and I have no desire at all to do so.

I wonder what the box office will be
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I wanted to see it, but maybe not.
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This is stupid! I mean, it is a Christmas festival, if that isn't already endorsing Christmas, give me a break! Also, just because you show this movie does NOT mean you are forcing Christianity on anyone, oh please! It's a story, take it or leave it, believe it or not, it's a part of history like everything else in the past that formed the world to come.
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it make me feel better that millions of people will find this movie spiritually exalting, as opposed to the appaling, ultra-violent Gibson snuff film from a few years back.
By all accounts, crucifixion was an appalling, ultra-violent way to go.

The reviews actually seem to wish that "Nativity" played it a little less safe.
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By all accounts, crucifixion was an appalling, ultra-violent way to go.


unquestionably. and a relatively common form of execution.

i don't know why Gibson's film was more violent than the crucifixion actually was, and why the film was so obsessed with pain (and pain as purifier, much like in "braveheart," i thought).
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i don't know why Gibson's film was more violent than the crucifixion actually was, and why the film was so obsessed with pain (and pain as purifier, much like in "braveheart," i thought).
Not knowing Gibson personally, I won't hazard a guess as to his motivations. But from my own perspective, given the relative desensitization to violence in our culture, and given that the point of the film was to get the audience to understand the extent to which He suffered on our behalf, I imagine the intensity of the violence was necessary. (And I'm not sure how much more violent than the actual crucifixion the film was -- I know the co-writer and I know the extent of the research they went to in order to get it right.)
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Not knowing Gibson personally, I won't hazard a guess as to his motivations. But from my own perspective, given the relative desensitization to violence in our culture, and given that the point of the film was to get the audience to understand the extent to which He suffered on our behalf, I imagine the intensity of the violence was necessary. (And I'm not sure how much more violent than the actual crucifixion the film was -- I know the co-writer and I know the extent of the research they went to in order to get it right.)

well, we're getting off topic and we've been down this thread before -- my objection to the film, among several, was that the violence felt completely detextualized and pornographic, and i don't know what's exalting about that, and i'd compare it negatively to other violent films (like, say, "Private Ryan") and also say that "the Passion" was the most violent movie i have ever seen. as for the historical accuracy, there are numerous scholarly articles that dispute the historical accuracy.
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