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Old 10-09-2006, 02:16 AM   #16
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I still don't understand why the Jewish community got so peeved over The Passion. The Jews did hate Jesus, as did the Romans, as do alot of people today.

People just need something to get angry over these days.
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I still don't understand why the Jewish community got so peeved over The Passion. The Jews did hate Jesus, as did the Romans,
Geez...actually *read* the New Testament sometime, will ya!

The Jewish people loved Jesus (where do you think the crowds he preached to came from, Mars?)--It was the religious/political leadership that had the problem w/him...sheesh!!!!!!!
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Geez...actually *read* the New Testament sometime, will ya!

The Jewish people loved Jesus (where do you think the crowds he preached to came from, Mars?)--It was the religious/political leadership that had the problem w/him...sheesh!!!!!!!
Actually, according to the Bible, you are incorrect. The crowd that had gathered outside Pilate's palace was indeed crying out for Christ's crucifixion.

Christ was popular with the people at first, but the religious leaders stirred up people's anger against him.
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I think that no matter what time Jesus showed up in or who He was surrouned by the majority of people would end up hating Him. Of course some people will come to be saved, but sinful people wouldn't have tolerated the son of God under any circumstances.
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but sinful people wouldn't have tolerated the son of God under any circumstances.
So only those free of sin will tolerate the son of God?

Haven't met anyone like that.
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Yeah, Christ came for those with sin in their life. i.e. all of us.
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I am not Jewish

but, I think it is really unfair to suggest that people that did not accept Jesus

were sinful or evil

a lot of these people just went to their place of worship and practiced their religion

and were very decent people
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You're right, nobody should be singled out. We're all sinful.
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I am not sinful

you can live with that programed thinking

if you wish

I reject it
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I am not sinful

you can live with that programed thinking

if you wish

I reject it
I'm curious about this. Is it because:

(1) You don't believe in the concept of sin?

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(2) You believe in sin, but believe that you do not commit sin

or

(3) You are born again, and are identifying yourself the way God identifies you?
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So only those free of sin will tolerate the son of God?

Haven't met anyone like that.
Only those who accept Jesus won't reject Him. We all have sin, but I was referring to those who don't ask Jesus for forgeviness.

My main point is that alot of Jews get upset about movies like The Passion because the Jews are portrayed as the ones who hated Jesus (which is true), but that's only because He was born there. If Jesus were born anywhere else in the world the same thing would have happened because the world's population generally hasn't accepted Jesus.
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Only those who accept Jesus won't reject Him. We all have sin, but I was referring to those who don't ask Jesus for forgeviness.

My main point is that alot of Jews get upset about movies like The Passion because the Jews are portrayed as the ones who hated Jesus (which is true), but that's only because He was born there. If Jesus were born anywhere else in the world the same thing would have happened because the world's population generally hasn't accepted Jesus.
Not all Jews hated Jesus. The Jerusalem church numbered at least 120 Jews. Peter was a Jew. Paul was a Jew. James was a Jew.

It is true that Christianity had more success with Greeks - but the first generation leaders were all Jewish.
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I'm speaking in generalities here heh heh.
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If Jesus were born anywhere else in the world the same thing would have happened because the world's population generally hasn't accepted Jesus.
If Jesus were alive today, most "christians" wouldn't recognize him and reject him as well.
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If Jesus were alive today, most "christians" wouldn't recognize him and reject him as well.
According to the Bible, you are wrong.

First, Jesus is alive today.

Secondly, I was going to bring up the nature of Christ's second coming and how it will be impossible for his children not to know him, but I really do not need to go into great detail on that.

The biggest support for my stance are in the following words of Christ himself.

John 10

1 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.
5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.”
6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.
Jesus the Good Shepherd

7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them.
13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own.
15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
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