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Old 10-18-2004, 08:22 AM   #1
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The Motorcycle Diaries

Just saw it--a really terrific movie. Anyone else seen it?

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I kinda want to see it since we just studied Che in Latin American Politics and my bro's friend is a relative of his (grandson or great-nephew I think, his last name is also Guevara).
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heard it's a good flick.
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I really wanted to see it, but missed it when it was in theatres.
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Nope haven't seen it but I do love Gael Garcia Bernal
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He was awesome in Y Tu Mama Tambien. I've only heard good things about this movie, plus I just bought a Che hat, so I kinda feel obliged to learn a bit more about him
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i am looking forward to seeing it.

isn't it ironic how che's image is plastered on all kinds of consumer products these days?
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i am looking forward to seeing it.

isn't it ironic how che's image is plastered on all kinds of consumer products these days?
It sure it. I have to wonder what he'd think of that. LOL. He might love it, who knows?


MG, Gael is... I mean... His acting is really sublime, too. I physically *hurt* for him during one of the astmatic seizure scenes. (Who knew El Comandante was astmatic?)

Anyway, great movie. On another track, though, my friend who I saw it with asked me on the way out: would the world have been a better place if he'd stayed a doctor and not taken up revolutionary struggle. I had to answer yes.

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Meggie--it just came out in theatres, I believe ????
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Why is Che so idolized? He was nothing but a murderous thug who thought Stalin was not Marxist enough. One does not have to be a McCarthyite or a member of the John Birch Society to say that Che's actions were much worse than those he was fighting. He did absolutely nothing for the dispossessed he was fighting for except maybe get them killed (when there were peasants fighting for him). Cuba is certainly worse off because of his influence what with the concentration camps he helped start. Wearing Che on a shirt is akin to wearing Goebbels or Stalin. What also amazes me is that many leftists (or collegiate leftists) who are supposedly anti war put Che on a pedestal. Che was certainly not anti-war because he fomented bloodshed wherever he went.
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Why is Che so idolized?
people like to say 'che'. people like t shirts that say 'che'.
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I've often wondered why Michael Collins isn't sold on merchandise.

He was just as photogenic.
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Honestly, I couldn't care less that the story is attached to Che. In that respect, I think the film was successful with its intentions (me, xeidon.com, 2004).
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Why is Che so idolized? He was nothing but a murderous thug who thought Stalin was not Marxist enough.
Che was a man of his time - no better and no worse than that. In the context of the revolutions in South and Latin America as well as the Caribbean, he was a man of his time, and played a major role. His last words are thought to have been "shoot coward, you are only killing a man" and it illustrates very well what he thought of the world he lived in. He was lucky to have been born in a time in which he belonged and whose symbol he became later on.

When I was in Cuba, a guy in our travel group asked a Cuban man why Che meant so much to them. He said that it's because Cuban people saw Che as a man who owed them absolutely nothing, and followed only his own principles (wrong or right) to the end, and gave up almost everything for Cuba. A man who was not a Cuban made a huge personal sacrifice, when he had no real reason to do so. I am not sure if the perspective is correct or not - but it is their perspective and I respect it.

I did see the movie several weeks ago, I guess, and thought it was very well done.
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i'm excited to see this film, if only the local theatre would show it...
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