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Old 02-10-2011, 10:34 PM   #361
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Thank goodness for our Constitution. I'm glad there are about two decades between her and a run for president.
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One thing we have learned

the American public had no problem voting for her over others that were better qualified. Don't misunderestimate her.
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the American public had no problem voting for her over others that were better qualified. Don't misunderestimate her.
Thankfully, she won't be eligible to run in 2024. Watch out in 2028.
But, can she raise the $115 quadrillion dollars it will take to run a competitive presidential campaign then?
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interesting story: Fox News Insider: "Stuff Is Just Made Up"

it's a pretty long story so i won't post it all here, but here's the first few paragraphs:

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Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: “I don’t think people would believe it’s as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up.”

Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media Matters confirmed what critics have been saying for years about Murdoch’s cable channel. Namely, that Fox News is run as a purely partisan operation, virtually every news story is actively spun by the staff, its primary goal is to prop up Republicans and knock down Democrats, and that staffers at Fox News routinely operate without the slightest regard for fairness or fact checking.

“It is their M.O. to undermine the administration and to undermine Democrats,” says the source. “They’re a propaganda outfit but they call themselves news.”

And that’s the word from inside Fox News.

Note the story here isn’t that Fox News leans right. Everyone knows the channel pushes a conservative-friendly version of the news. Everyone who’s been paying attention has known that since the channel’s inception more than a decade ago. The real story, and the real danger posed by the cable outlet, is that over time Fox News stopped simply leaning to the right and instead became an open and active political player, sort of one-part character assassin and one-part propagandist, depending on which party was in power. And that the operation thrives on fabrications and falsehoods.
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Meanwhile, Media Matters revealed that during the 2009-2010 election cycle, dozens of Fox News personalities endorsed, raised money, or campaigned for Republican candidates or organizations in more than 600 instances. And in terms of free TV airtime that Fox News handed over to GOP hopefuls, Media Matters calculated the channel essentially donated $55 million worth of airtime to Republican presidential hopefuls last year who also collect Fox News paychecks.

And of course, that’s when Murdoch wasn’t writing $1 million checks in the hopes of electing more Republican politicians.
And that's okay, but when someone like Olbermann does it he gets suspended. Mmkay.

(Though, actually, that might speak more to the standards of MSNBC vs. Fox on that issue, but still, just very funny nonetheless)

Anywho, unfortunately, even if the stuff in that article is concrete truth (which I'd have no problem believing about most, if not all of what's said here), the fact that the person sharing this is an unnamed source is going to make it harder for people to take these accusations all that seriously. But it's pretty obvious there's at least some truth to what's being said here, and I wish more people would notice it.

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Not a ton of examples offered in that piece. And his assertion that FNC was a mouthpiece for Bush or never criticized him in any way is simply wrong. I could list all day the instances when Fox personalities attacked the administration.

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Then go for it. I'm waiting...
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I could list all day the instances when Fox personalities attacked the administration.

I suspect you might have a different definition of "attacked" than the rest of us do in this context.
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I suspect you might have a different definition of "attacked" than the rest of us do in this context.
Also, here's what I have an issue with in regards to the whole discussion on Fox News. If there are "personalities" that "attack" an administration, be it Republican, Democrat or what have you, that suggests an editorial bias and is therefore not journalism. On its own it's perfectly legitimate, but it is not news. Rather it is opinion, pure and simple, so stop trying to uphold it as some sort of unbiased counterpoint to the "mainstream media."
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Not a ton of examples offered in that piece. And his assertion that FNC was a mouthpiece for Bush or never criticized him in any way is simply wrong. I could list all day the instances when Fox personalities attacked the administration.

But the assertion that FNC is a propaganda outlet that wants to destroy the Democrats is correct. I mean, that's pretty impossible to deny at this point, isn't it?
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Not a ton of examples offered in that piece. And his assertion that FNC was a mouthpiece for Bush or never criticized him in any way is simply wrong. I could list all day the instances when Fox personalities attacked the administration.



you're right.

by the middle of Bush's second term, it began to dawn on the Republicans that their role was to help Fox in the ratings. they worked for Fox, not the other way around.
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Glenn Beck breaks down American Judaism for you. In responding to last month's open letter from Jewish Funds for Justice in the WSJ, which was signed by 400 rabbis and rebuked Beck for insinuating that "Puppet Master" George Soros was a Nazi collaborator in his youth:
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[radio show co-host] PAT GRAY: And now remember, this is all fueled by an organization that Soros funds, that has a bunch of progressive rabbis that came out against Glenn and said--

BECK: OK, you have to--hang on just a second. When you talk about rabbis, understand that most--most people who are not Jewish don't understand that there are the Orthodox rabbis, and then there are the Reformed rabbis. Reformed rabbis are generally political in nature. It's almost like Islam, radicalized Islam in a way, to where it is just--radicalized Islam is less about religion than it is about politics. When you look at the Reform Judaism, it is more about politics. I'm not saying that they're the same on--

GRAY: No, obviously not.

BECK: --and they're going to take it at that, but--stand in line.

GRAY: "Glenn Beck says--"

BECK: It's not about terror or anything else, it's about politics, and so it becomes more about politics than it does about faith. Orthodox rabbis--that is about faith. There's not a single Orthodox rabbi on this list. This is all Reformed rabbis that were--that made this list.

[executive producer] STU BURGURIERE: Yeah, I don't know that for a fact. I know that certainly this organization is a progressive political organization. And that's fine.
"Yeah, I don't know that for a fact"--translation, here's our token CYA nod to actual reality, which would be that lots of rabbis from all four American Jewish movements (Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist) signed it. But whatever, the important point here is there are true, "Orthodox" Jews--like Beck's and Ailes' AIPAC buddies, for example, never mind that most of them aren't Orthodox--who are mostly Republican "not political in nature" except concerning Tel Aviv's interests; and then there are the closet Muslim/puppet master "Reform" types, who deviously don skullcaps for appearances' sake while pursuing liberal agendas, instead of piously chanting over their rosaries or whatever the hell it is they're supposed to be doing.
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