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Old 12-22-2010, 11:33 PM   #271
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Interesting

Makes me wonder... would the Tea Party even exist without the conservative talking heads?

It truly would be a different America without them.

One can only dream
i'd imagine so. of course every country is always going to have far right political groups, but by and large they're seen as a joke, at least here. and you certainly don't have them on the news very often, nor do bills not get voted in because god forbid one of them might disagree with it.

no government's perfect and i certainly don't agree with a lot of things here either, but it is at least nice to only see such politicians on tv once in a blue moon.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:04 AM   #272
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Well, there's been those stories floating around about Fox News helping to fund and create the Tea Party groups and such, so yeah, without them it'd be much harder for a Tea Party to exist.

Harder, but not necessarily impossible, however. They just perhaps would not have quite the traction they do now.

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Yeeeeeeah, you know that "Epic fail" thread in the Lemonade Stand area? I'd say this pretty well qualifies. Sheesh .

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Old 12-29-2010, 11:34 AM   #273
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Tucker Carlson filled in for Sean Hannity Tuesday night on Fox News and made a shocking claim: Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick should be executed.

Carlson led a panel discussion pegged to President Obama's recent phone call with the Eagles owner, in which he applauded the Eagles for giving Vick a second chance following his time in jail over his dogfighting scandal.

But Carlson is not as forgiving as Obama or the Eagles.

"I'm a Christian, I've made mistakes myself, I believe fervently in second chances," Carlson said. "But Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did in a heartless and cruel way. And I think, personally, he should've been executed for that. He wasn't, but the idea that the President of the United States would be getting behind someone who murdered dogs? Kind of beyond the pale."

YouTube - Fox News' Tucker Carlson thinks Michael Vick should be executed
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I have mixed feelings about Obama "backing" Michael Vick. Yes, okay, second chances are well and good, and he served his time, but I think too many people are treating it like a "forgive and forget" kind of thing. I don't think what he did should be so easily forgotten. That kind of cruelty doesn't just go away after some jail time.

At least the White House (?) came out with a follow-up comment that Obama didn't condone the crime, or something like that. It made me feel a little better about it.

But "executed"? Oh, fuck off, Tucker.
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But "executed"? Oh, fuck off, Tucker.
That pretty much covers it.
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BREAKING: Cable TV news personality says dumb thing, sparks message board discussion. Ratings slightly up.
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Tucker Carlson filled in for Sean Hannity Tuesday night on Fox News and made a shocking claim: Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick should be executed.

Carlson led a panel discussion pegged to President Obama's recent phone call with the Eagles owner, in which he applauded the Eagles for giving Vick a second chance following his time in jail over his dogfighting scandal.

But Carlson is not as forgiving as Obama or the Eagles.

"I'm a Christian, I've made mistakes myself, I believe fervently in second chances," Carlson said. "But Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did in a heartless and cruel way. And I think, personally, he should've been executed for that. He wasn't, but the idea that the President of the United States would be getting behind someone who murdered dogs? Kind of beyond the pale."

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Sounds to me like this is less about what a horrible person Michael Vick, and more about what a horrible person Obama is.
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Sounds to me like this is less about what a horrible person Michael Vick, and more about what a horrible person Obama is.
Yep-no limits on the extreme statements in order to make Obama look bad.
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I have zero respect for Michael Vick. Animal abusers piss me off .

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I have mixed feelings about Obama "backing" Michael Vick. Yes, okay, second chances are well and good, and he served his time, but I think too many people are treating it like a "forgive and forget" kind of thing. I don't think what he did should be so easily forgotten. That kind of cruelty doesn't just go away after some jail time.

At least the White House (?) came out with a follow-up comment that Obama didn't condone the crime, or something like that. It made me feel a little better about it.

But "executed"? Oh, fuck off, Tucker.
Ta-da, you pretty much stated everything I was going to say.

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Well NFL=not for long, as long as you can make money for us. At least he did do time.The head of the HSUS supports Vick getting a dog again.

My dog that I loved so much died two years ago. She was attacked once by a rottweiler at her vet's office (she survived that but it was just the year before she died) while I was taking her to the door and it was probably the most horrific experience of my life so far. I just can't imagine anyone intentionally doing what he did to dogs.
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Interesting

Makes me wonder... would the Tea Party even exist without the conservative talking heads?

It truly would be a different America without them.

One can only dream



Talking heads did not start the Tea Party movement.


Americans thinking about the Constitution and freedom started the movement.


The Tea Party is closer to Libertarian principles than the two major U.S. parties.
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Americans thinking about the Constitution and freedom started the movement.
No. No no no no no.

Conservative businessmen started and run the Tea Party.
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People with influence and power started the Tea Party. And manipulated a lot of Americans in the process.

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My dog that I loved so much died two years ago. She was attacked once by a rottweiler at her vet's office (she survived that but it was just the year before she died) while I was taking her to the door and it was probably the most horrific experience of my life so far. I just can't imagine anyone intentionally doing what he did to dogs.
I'm so sorry to hear that.

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the tea party prepares for another rally?
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It's sponsored, sort of like a bowl game is sponsored. The Koch Industries Tea Party or the Tea Party Presented by Koch Industries. Your choice.
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