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Old 12-22-2010, 01:29 PM   #256
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What the actual fuck.
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:03 PM   #258
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That's not as bad as this:



CBS Airs Hoax Cover of Bush Memoir - FoxNews.com

CBS News aired a fake cover of former President George W. Bush's memoir over the weekend, after a staffer apparently got duped by a hoax image floating around the Internet.

The image of the faux cover, along with that of several other genuine book covers, was flashed on screen for a fraction of a second during the introduction to a feature package Sunday about how book covers are designed.

The title of the Bush book read: "Desision Points ... How I Managed to Go Eight Years Without Making One Good Decision."

Save for the title and subtitle, the cover image looked similar to that of the real book, "Decision Points."

CBS issued a statement acknowledging it made a "mistake," saying nobody could see it "because you'd have to freeze the frame to notice it."

"Clearly we have to be more careful when downloading material," CBS said, calling the incident a "cautionary tale" about the risks of Internet content.


No "sorry, Bush family." No "sorry, viewers of ours who expect a better job of reporting." Instead we get a half-assed "let this be a lesson, though, let's be fair, nobody probably even saw it." Who does CBS learn its manner of apologizing from? Rachel Maddow?
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Yeah, that's pretty piss-poor as well, although that seems like an unnecessary jab rather than just a really disgusting mistake (which I'm hoping the Elie Wiesel thing was - I don't even want to consider that it was someone doing it as a joke).

Wasn't there a network that used a fake cover of the Palin book, too?
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Every once in awhile someone does the right thing on Fox:

YouTube - Fox News' Shep Smith Shames Coburn For Blocking 9/11 Bill

maybe once a year...
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Isn't Shepherd Smith known for being rather reasonable even by the usual lefties? So it's not so surprising coming from him.

but nice to see someone at Fox bringing it up.
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Isn't Shepherd Smith known for being rather reasonable even by the usual lefties? So it's not so surprising coming from him.

but nice to see someone at Fox bringing it up.
Yeah, he actually seems pretty reasonable, but also to no suprise Fox gets a lot of email saying he doesn't belong on their network.
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:22 PM   #264
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the UMD study that we've been talking about for the past 5 pages or so. the one that shows that viewers of Fox News believe lies.
Well, not every study that is done is accurate. I find it a bit strange that your so eager to classify millions of people a certain way based on one study that sampled only a fraction of the people that watch the network.


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if you're claiming that Olbermann is more "biased" than O'Reilly, i might be inclined to agree with you. but you seem to think that, somehow, this stands in for the entire network, and keep repeating this as if it has any relevance or bearing whatsoever as to what's being discussed in here.
Well, its certainly a more accurate assessment than a study done on a small fraction of people that watch the Fox network.


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we do not see on MSNBC the direct, clear links in the framing of the issues between Fox News and the GOP.

we do not see MSNBC make donations of a similar size and scale of Fox to the GOP.

we do not see the demonstrable ignorance in the MSNBC audience that we do in the Fox audience.
1. This is debatable

2. You have a point here.

3. I thought the "study" only involved Fox news? If you only watched Chris, Keith and Rachel, you would indeed be ignorant on on certain aspects of several issues.

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the major difference is that Fox acts as a propaganda arm of the GOP, and MSNBC has a business model that strives to shore up the other end of the market for liberal viewers who want combative hosts delivering to them news that feels good. while MSNBC may have stolen their model, it does not follow marching orders from the DNC (or the White House) in the way that Fox follows orders from the GOP.
MSNBC used to be a good news channel. But in my opinion, its more biased than even Fox now.

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and MSNBC has smarter viewers than Fox. so it seems clear that while their hosts may be biased, they are not peddling deliberate lies and misinformation or playing into non-truths (i.e., Obama and his birth certificate, the Black Panther freak-out back in October
I seriously doubt the viewers of either channel or CNN are smarter than the other. To peddle that view or conduct a study attempting to show that either way indeed shows some serious political bias. "They are dumb, and we are smart". LOL Thats what all political extremist like to believe.
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This really is a shitty yardstick you're using. These two shows are different formats, and neither are news. The quicker you understand that, the better.
Both involve the news on news channels. The difference between the two shows boils down to the fact that one has opposition views and the other does not. Both shows are the most widely watched shows on both networks. Whats your yardstick?
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Whats your yardstick?
Looking at the news programs and the actions the networks take, not their commentary hours.
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Wow. I've been to Canada, Italy and Australia, and none of these countries have all these "talking heads" shows.
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Wow. I've been to Canada, Italy and Australia, and none of these countries have all these "talking heads" shows.
Interesting

Makes me wonder... would the Tea Party even exist without the conservative talking heads?

It truly would be a different America without them.

One can only dream
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Makes me wonder... would the Tea Party even exist without the conservative talking heads?
Obviously, no.

Radio and cable TV are fuel to the fire.

But don't quote me on what I just stated. The only news that I was able to watch in other countries came out of the TV's in my hotel rooms.
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