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Sicy said:If we banned everyone that was nasty in this forum there would be like 5 people left to post here.
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This is the most accurate statment The Goddess has made in a long time
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Sicy said:If we banned everyone that was nasty in this forum there would be like 5 people left to post here.
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Achtung Bubba said:Rono, I DID try the PM route two weeks ago, as I said in the thread above.
Sicy,
I personally am not asking for people to be banned - just that seriously offensive accusations be made carefully, not sarcastically, and not without evidence. In the case of the accusations made by "Like Someone to Blame," I would expect the mods to at least say something like this:
That's a pretty serious accusation. Are you sure you mean that?
That might even be enough to dissuade forum members from making such egregious claims.
Instead, the moderators have closed threads without explaining who is in the wrong. And - despite several requests, both public AND private - the moderators have remained dead silent about Rob's comments.
I ask again, how would the moderators react to another accusation that conservatives or Republicans want to harm the elderly, destory the environment, or do something else along those lines?
Like someone to blame said:Wow, the preponderance of lies, out-of-context quotes, and pissing and moaning from the likes of z edge and Bubba is immature and quite entertaining. For the record: Bubba and z edge dislike me because I refuse to take their conservative philosophies and theories as gospel. Specifically, they dislike me because they somehow think that if I want to express an opinion contrary to their conservative beliefs than it is somehow hateful, disengenuous, and personal.
Bubba has relentlessly been attempting to spin the whole "conservatives want to destroy the environment" thing as if I was the member who initiated such talk when in fact it has been established that it was HE who made the remark first...I simply repeated his words (which he repeatedly/conveniently FORGETS to bring up).
Secondly, now he thinks that because I and a few other members SUGGEST that it is POSSIBLE (those were my words) that the Bush administration had prior knowledge/involvement in 9/11 that we are somehow guilty of promoting GENOCIDE similar to the plight of the Jews during the Hitler years on this board. Laughable, really. My suggesting that 9/11 MAY have had Bush admin knowledge is admittedly remote and certainly not a theory that will get one widespread support in this country, yet I do believe it is, at the very least, POSSIBLE given the information that exists out there. But you see, Bubba and z edge don't like this SUGGESTION so they therefore try to spin this as if I and others are promoting hate and genocide-which any sane individual here realizes is NOT what we have done. We simply floated an idea/theory contrary to theirs and in true conservative fashion they are trying to suppress our (my) right to free speech and make US out to be the "bad guys."
I'm really not sure what Bubba believes is so overwhelmingly hateful about me stating that I believe Republicans are more "nasty and hypocritical" than Democrats. That is simply my view of the two parties and their operatives...extremely hateful, isn't it? (sarcasm implied for those who need assistance deciphering such comments.)
Bubba, you really need to move on with your life and get over this crusade you have with slandering me, quoting me out of context, putting your "spin" on all my posts, and trying to portray me as some unpatriotic, hatemonger. Shame on you for your public crusade against me, shame on you for trying to control the terms of every debate, shame on you for driving a wedge amongst forum members. I'm afraid that this discussion forum is ruining your health and consumming you...I hope that is not the case.
I honestly find much of Bubba's and z edges rants amusing...I really do laugh quite frequently at your outlandish remarks whose only purpose is to suppress the views/thoughts of those who disagree with you. So WHAT if I believe Republicans are "nasty", so WHAT if I believe they want to "destroy the environment", so WHAT if I believe our government isn't blameless for 9/11,...so WHAT??? At the end of the day it IS JUST SOMEONE'S OPINION!!!
The stuff most conservatives float here is GARGAGE in my opinion...yet it hardly affects my personal (real world) life. I don't talk about it at the dinner table with my wife...I don't talk about it at church...or the office...it doesn't consume my every thought...I don't get angry for long periods of time...what DOES consume me is God, my beautiful wife, my family, U2's music and message, the Boston Red Sox, The Dallas Cowboys, whitewater rafting, work, politics, and way down on the list...what some conservative forum member may have said in this discussion forum...because at the END OF MY DAY...I really don't care-it's that simple.
For the record: I have no alter-I don't need to hide behind one. When I've got something to say I say it. I find the alter thing a bit obsessive and dishonest. I mean, take any thread you like here in this particular forum. Let's say I start it with a liberal view. Next thing you know you've got responses floating conservative views from three different "members"...yet they are actually the same views from the SAME member. Why does one do this? Well, I think it is a possible attempt in THEIR mind to even the playing field, possibly, with the liberal members here since they somehow seem to think they (the conservatives) are outnumbered. Secondly, I think it is a means by which they can post hit and run, largely personally degrading attacks, without having to stand up to them. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
It is my belief that what has transpired over the last few weeks here in cyberspace is purely a reflection of today's politcal climate in the real world, i.e. Republican attack dogs spinning stories and quoting out of context to further their extreme agenda and suppress the opposing view. I'm just trying to provide some balance, expose their tactics, and educate those who are impartial. Bubba has called me, (amongst other things) an "intellectual coward", which is very entertaining. For the record (again) I have point-counterpointed Bubba on EVERY issue/challenge he has thrown my way, from the Laugher curve on down the line (any impartial observer would draw this conclusion).
So why would he make such a statement? Answer: It's just what Republicans in this country do when they are on the defensive...they sling mud....twist facts...and attack their opponent to shift the focus away from the actual debate at hand. You see, Bubba, if you want to play fair than I will...but I won't sit back and let you disparage my good name here in your dilusional attempt to silence my progressive voice.
To those who have been following Bubba's relentless demand (for Bubba doesn't "request" anything here) for me to a)explain whether my reply to HIS statement about Republicans wanting to destroy the environment, starve children, and kill the elderly and b)cite examples of this I say: what purpose would this serve? For IF I believe HIS statement and IF I bring forth examples it will only serve to fuel Bubba's ego, increase his blood pressure, and, in true Bubba fashion, he would arbitrarily REJECT my examples as nonsense and "cowardness". So really, NOTHING could be gained from such an exercise EXCEPT to further fuel Bubba's attacks against me and provide him with the satisfaction that his "demand" was met...which I will not do...because I'm not here to satisfy Bubba's demands. If I'm a "coward" for that in Bubba's mind than so be it...it won't affect any aspect of my life.
I have not used profanity here nor (I believe) broken any rules of the Interference agreement while posting in this forum. It is for this reason that I believe the moderators have disregarded Bubba's demand to enforce some sort of actions against me and realize, from the examples offered by Kinpin and others, that I have NOT lobbed hateful remarks at Bubba or z edge.
These pleas to the moderators for some sort of action is perplexing when all I've done is offered opinions that a few outspoken forum members don't agree with.
I believe the moderators understand this and see how some here are spinning my words in an blatant attempt to not only portray me as hatemonger but in the larger attempt to silence me in this forum. Furthermore, I think they see the overall RIDICULOUSNESS of Bubba's problems with me and Kingpin. Disclaimer: I'm not trying to speak for any of the moderators here-just making my own observations.
Finally, I resent the fact that Bubba and, to a lesser extent z edge, aka Love Muscle, aka Spyplane, have ganged up on me here in an obvious attempt to control the terms of the debate by relentlessly making a distorted, hyperbole laced argument that I am somehow insulting them because I don't agree with their conservative beliefs. Too bad. You don't agree with MY progressive beliefs and you don't see ME pissing and moaning all over the forum about it. As Bono says in "Bad" ...'let it go'. When you are ready to engage in constructive debate and are done publicly smearing and railroading me, than I'm ready...but I'm not holding my breath.
Like someone to blame said:First of all...STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT APPEAR AS IF I WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE ABOVE ACCUSATION...IT WAS Y-O-U and if you are so interested in seeing the mods response than make the accusation again and see what happens.
Egregious claims??? A HUGE stretch of one's imagination I would say and hardly a "pretty serious accusation" as you promote, which probably explains why the moderators have ignored your demands for action. If this was such a "serious" accusation than I guess all members of Congress on both sides of the aisle should be spanked or locked up...for this stuff is floated daily in both chambers, in particular when committee's are in session. I think you will find many people in this country who do in fact believe that Republican policies hurt the environment, harm the elderly etc etc. Hardly an accusation, really, in their minds. Why you are so upset about the statement that YOU originally made is baffling, when it does nothing to attack you personally or your character. True, by saying that Republicans want to destroy the environment etc it lumps ALL Republicans into that category...but rational folk are able to comprehend that a comment such as that doesn't correspond to THEM, the individual. Republicans always accuse the Democrats of trying to ruin the economy with high taxes and big goverment...maybe I should ask to have YOUR views on the economy suppressed here because that is such a wild accusation (imo) that it hurts my feelings?????? See the sheer nonsense of your argument?
Sicy said:Bah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Sicy said:Bubba my head hurts from reading these essays.
Can you just drop it.