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Old 07-25-2005, 07:44 AM   #1
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Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Group proposes to build hotel on Justice Souter's house property
Following the Supreme Court ruling allowing private companies to seize people's houses and develop the land for business purposes, a private developer has asked the code enforcement officer of the Towne of Weare, New Hampshire "to start the application process to build a hotel on 34 Cilley Hill Road." That's the address of Supreme Court Justice David H. Souter's home.
The proposed development, called "The Lost Liberty Hotel" will feature the "Just Desserts Café" and include a museum, open to the public, featuring a permanent exhibit on the loss of freedom in America. Instead of a Gideon's Bible each guest will receive a free copy of Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged."

Clements indicated that the hotel must be built on this particular piece of land because it is a unique site being the home of someone largely responsible for destroying property rights for all Americans.

"This is not a prank" said Clements, "The Towne of Weare has five people on the Board of Selectmen. If three of them vote to use the power of eminent domain to take this land from Mr. Souter we can begin our hotel development."

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USA - WEARE - In the two weeks since a California man proposed building a hotel on land occupied by U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter, town officials have heard little from him.

"He hasn't done anything," said Chip Meany, the town's code enforcement officer.

On June 28, Logan Darrow Clements faxed a one-page letter to Meany outlining an intention to build a Lost Liberty Hotel, which he said in a separate statement would be dedicated to the loss of freedom in America.

There would also be a Just Desserts Cafe and a museum.

Clements' letter refers to a recent Supreme Court ruling that cleared the way for the city of New London, Conn., to use eminent domain to acquire private homes for a private commercial project on the grounds that it benefits the community as a whole. Souter voted with the majority of the court in that decision.

Clements says Souter's land could be claimed for the greater good of the community, not least of which is the increase in tax revenues. He also says his proposal - informal only at this point - is not a joke.

Two days later after Clements' fax, Meany e-mailed him back telling him he was the last person he would need to deal with, not the first.

"It is my responsibility to review your plans for completeness, including all (planning) board reviews and approvals," Meany wrote.

Meany also told Clements that he could not deal with him until he actually owned the land, which, if he was going to try to claim it, would first need the board of selectmen's support.

Selectman Heleen Kurk said Clements has not contacted the board, as far as she knew. Regardless, she said she would not support the proposal.

"We have absolutely no intention of doing that," he said of claiming Souter's land.

Meany said he has not heard back from Clements since his response. Tina Laramee, who works with Meany, said Clements last called on June 30, saying that he nonetheless may be coming to a planning board meeting. She said she told him he would need an appointment and sent him a calendar.

That's apparently the last anybody has ever heard from him.

"He still hasn't asked us for the correct paperwork," said Naomi Bolton, the town's land use coordinator.

Clements is CEO of Freestar Media LLC, a small television production company in Canoga Park, Calif., dedicated to covering stories of government excess and corruption.

He sent out an e-mail last Monday seeking a hotel development company to help manage the project. Though some might wonder why he is already looking for a development company for land he is does not own, Clements said in the e-mail he hopes the development company can help put together a complete package to present to the selectmen.

In the newsletter, he also promoted several of his media projects and requested donations. He did not respond to repeated attempts for comment on this story.

Clements is also a former California gubernatorial candidate, having run as a Republican in the October 2003 election that actor Arnold Schwarzenegger won. According to results from the California Secretary of State's office, Clement garnered 274 votes of the more than 8 million votes cast.

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I'm not sure we want to get behind personal retaliation against Supreme Court justices for their decisions.

But, if you create a broad standard for eminent domain, you will have to live by that standard.

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I hope the city council approves it.
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You know, we talk about "judicial activism," but we've ignored the fact that this same Supreme Court ruling said that states are free to legislate against it. That is, existing eminent domain law allows for this wide application, but the law, itself, could be changed.

So rather than piss and moan, why aren't we putting pressure on our state and federal legislators to change the law? Or are we so used to our legislators being overpaid, hysterical paperweights that the only way we "legislate" anymore is through "judicial activism"?

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overpaid, hysterical paperweights

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Its true though. You should see what is goin on in Pennsylvania right now...more on that in a second.

Ft. Worth Frog...think about what is going on in your backyard. Texas legislature has already "legislated" against Eminent Domain...but not before Arlington "domained" hundreds of properties for a DALLAS Cowboys stadium.

Now...Pennsylvania Legislators: at 2AM at the end of their session, after struggling to put a budget together, they APPROVED a pay raise for themselves. Somewhere in the range of 15 to 28% (the lowest paid legislator gets nearly $80,000). In addition, they get a daily stipend (for meals) and a monthly allowance for a vehicle (around $600).

Not eve a year ago, they asked the professors and teachers at EVERY public school and college to take a pay CUT due to budget constraints.


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