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Old 02-21-2003, 06:55 PM   #1
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The Irony of the Hollywood Liberal Left Protesters..(buckle up-explosive topic)

Did it ever occur to the Hollywood Left that protest the War On Terror and
Disarming of Saddam that they in fact contributed to the hatred by these FANATICS thru their-

movies they make.?
materialism they embrace?
lifestyle of self indulgence they embrace?

self greed they crave
ect
ect
ect..

Its not that hard to connect the dots.

Saddam and Osama, the fundamental whack-jobs they are, abhor EVERYTHING the Hollywood Left protesters love.
I suppose Saddam and Osama will one day send the best Hollywood Left Actor/Protesters/Drama Queens invitations to a thank you banquet..

I was just thinkin..

Great work ya-all..
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Hollywood does live by any sort of principles
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But the public still lines up in droves and sends movies with anti-arab steroetypes thru the box office take roof.

Supply and demand, my dear friends.
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LOL...laugh all you want, but films are very conservative in their message. The dominant hegemony is always upheld, minorities are generally portrayed in a very negative light, and women are put in their place.

Study film sometime and you'll understand why I see it this way. It isn't some liberal hegemony like you wish it were.

And wasn't it the Reagan Administration that was all about materialism and greed?

"Greed is good."

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Hollywood is a greedy corporate machine... they'll cater to whatever they think audiences want.

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LOL...laugh all you want, but films are very conservative in their message. The dominant hegemony is always upheld, minorities are generally portrayed in a very negative light, and women are put in their place.

Study film sometime and you'll understand why I see it this way. It isn't some liberal hegemony like you wish it were.

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LOL...laugh all you want, but films are very conservative in their message. The dominant hegemony is always upheld, minorities are generally portrayed in a very negative light, and women are put in their place.
Exactly. Same with my beloved Industry. Study music sometime and you will see what I mean.

Now, why is this, melon? Do you think it may be because movies and music (the most expensive and sold ones, with a few critical exceptions) serve to entertain their consumers a lot and "brainwash" them a little by the way (in accordance with lobbying, one hand washes... etc)?

F.e. lets say juvenile X is a little critical of the status quo. He doesn┤t know how to define it really, though - not yet. Now instead of getting angry f.e. with malfunctions of our democracies, the fact that he has to work in a job he doesn┤t really like, etc., he turns on MTV. He watches the new Eminem joint. Now instead of potentially using his energies for some productivity regarding civil society - which could be displeasing if a lotsa kids do it - his emotions are lived out by listening to the Eminem joint. Plus, maybe he consumes more and gets dependent on the "culture of consuming".

See the point? What do you think?
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Re: The Irony of the Hollywood Liberal Left Protesters..(buckle up-explosive topic)

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Its not that hard to connect the dots.

Wouldn't some of those dots lead to you and me and everyone else who buys a movie ticket or CD or concert ticket, which in turns supports these lavish lifestyles and feeds their materialism?


If we didn't pay, they (the Hollywood left you refer to) couldn't play.

If your theory holds, then aren't we all just as responsible?
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Wouldn't some of those dots lead to you and me and everyone else who buys a movie ticket or CD or concert ticket, which in turns supports these lavish lifestyles and feeds their materialism?


If we didn't pay, they (the Hollywood left you refer to) couldn't play.

If your theory holds, then aren't we all just as responsible?




"Explosive", to be sure. But Im not sure in the manner originally intended..

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LOL...laugh all you want, but films are very conservative in their message. The dominant hegemony is always upheld, minorities are generally portrayed in a very negative light, and women are put in their place.

Study film sometime and you'll understand why I see it this way. It isn't some liberal hegemony like you wish it were.

And wasn't it the Reagan Administration that was all about materialism and greed?

"Greed is good."

Melon
Melon is both right and wrong in his post.
The film industry runs the gamut of different idealogies.

What is perveted is-
-their payments as entertainers,
-the clout we give them as "all-knowing-gurus"
-worshipping them as idols..

What is the "liberal-hegemony" is not necessarily the message of the movies, but the mindset of the PEOPLE that make, act and produce them.

We then have clueless drones that march in in protest because..Madonna said so!

Reagan and greed and Gordon Gecko are not related Melonhead
Please separate a good movie script from reality...

BAW-
Good point, to a degree you are right..

Soulful-
Correct assesement.

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I will poke my head in this thread periodically to keep you all correct.

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I can't even see the point of this thread, other than to erect yet another straw man argument. It's on a par with our dear Prime Minister's (not so) subtle implication that the protesters in the streets are traitors. You know, cause Saddam might take some comfort from it all, or something. Fuck that.

Actually, fuck Hollywood too, but that's another story.
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Actually, fuck Hollywood too, but that's another story.
the point exactly, and point of the thread.
this thread was made to encourage ppl to think first instead of follow..
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You mean, like following GW without thinking?

Just want to make sure Im coming correct

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As usual, I'm in agreement with melon, Bono's American Wife, gabrielvox, and hiphop.

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