The Independent Thinker Appreciation Thread - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-08-2005, 11:50 AM   #1
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Macfistowannabe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,129
Local Time: 10:07 PM
The Independent Thinker Appreciation Thread

Whether you are liberal or conservative does not mean that you have to be a bootlicker. For example, I am overall in favor of President Bush, but when it comes to protecting our borders, I can honestly say that I'd rather have Zell Miller in office.

We have a good portion of independent thinkers here on FYM.

So here begs the question: how are YOU an independent thinker? How aren't your views being represented by your leaders?
__________________

__________________
Macfistowannabe is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 11:53 AM   #2
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Se7en's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: all around in the dark - everywhere
Posts: 3,531
Local Time: 09:07 PM
i don't have a leader. i guess that makes me a pretty independent thinker.
__________________

__________________
Se7en is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 11:54 AM   #3
ONE
love, blood, life
 
financeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 10,122
Local Time: 03:07 AM
Coming from a European perspective my main gripe with our system would be that there is no Libertarian party in most countries. Almost all parties, to a greater or lesser extent, support big government.

I'm not necessarily saying I would vote Libertarian - but it would be nice to have the option.

People I respect but don't necessarily agree with would include Patrick Buchanan (pundit and former US Presidential candidate) and Charles Moore (former editor of the UK Daily Telegraph). Both are firm conservatives - which I am not - but I can respect their point of view as it stems from conviction.
__________________
financeguy is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 11:56 AM   #4
ONE
love, blood, life
 
financeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 10,122
Local Time: 03:07 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Se7en
i don't have a leader.
Marx? Trotsky?
__________________
financeguy is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 11:57 AM   #5
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Macfistowannabe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,129
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by financeguy
Coming from a European perspective my main gripe with our system would be that there is no Libertarian party in most countries. Almost all parties, to a greater or lesser extent, support big government.
Excellent response, thanks for posting.
__________________
Macfistowannabe is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 11:58 AM   #6
ONE
love, blood, life
 
financeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 10,122
Local Time: 03:07 AM
you're welcome.
__________________
financeguy is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 12:02 PM   #7
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Se7en's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: all around in the dark - everywhere
Posts: 3,531
Local Time: 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by financeguy


Marx? Trotsky?
honestly, i haven't read much trotsky. so definitely no on him. i would say marx is an influence, albeit a significant one, more so than a leader. where's the sense in following a dead guy?
__________________
Se7en is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 12:04 PM   #8
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Macfistowannabe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,129
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Se7en


honestly, i haven't read much trotsky. so definitely no on him. i would say marx is an influence, albeit a significant one, more so than a leader. where's the sense in following a dead guy?
Ronald Reagan is a "dead guy", but his ideas are alive and well.
__________________
Macfistowannabe is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 12:08 PM   #9
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Se7en's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: all around in the dark - everywhere
Posts: 3,531
Local Time: 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Macfistowannabe
Ronald Reagan is a "dead guy", but his ideas are alive and well.
i think what i was trying to get at was that marx lived in the 19th century. now that it's 2005 it would be silly to "follow" him word for word. not that his ideas are dead, but dogmatic approval is useless.
__________________
Se7en is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 12:10 PM   #10
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Macfistowannabe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,129
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Se7en


i think what i was trying to get at was that marx lived in the 19th century. now that it's 2005 it would be silly to "follow" him word for word. not that his ideas are dead, but dogmatic approval is useless.
I don't follow Reagan's ideas word for word, I evolve. For example, his inaction on the AIDS crisis is where I like to separate my views from his.
__________________
Macfistowannabe is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 12:12 PM   #11
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Se7en's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: all around in the dark - everywhere
Posts: 3,531
Local Time: 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Macfistowannabe
I don't follow Reagan's ideas word for word, I evolve. For example, his inaction on the AIDS crisis is where I like to separate my views from his.
yes, i think you get my point.
__________________
Se7en is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 07:42 PM   #12
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
the iron horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: in a glass of CheerWine
Posts: 3,252
Local Time: 09:07 PM
"So here begs the question: how are YOU an independent thinker? How aren't your views being represented by your leaders?"


I believe that Rebel from Nazareth was telling the truth.

I vote Libertarian.


I do not see Libertarian ideas being expressed from politicians.
__________________
the iron horse is offline  
Old 11-08-2005, 07:50 PM   #13
ONE
love, blood, life
 
melon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 11,781
Local Time: 09:07 PM
I'm an independent thinker, because I can't stand any existing political structures and can't think of one politician or aspiring politician that I like.

People are more interested in greed, division, and ideology than common sense.

Melon
__________________
melon is offline  
Old 11-10-2005, 03:21 AM   #14
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
For Honor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast, USA
Posts: 5,278
Local Time: 09:07 PM
I guess I'm rather indpendant. But I don't even know what to say here........
__________________
For Honor is offline  
Old 11-10-2005, 10:13 PM   #15
The Fly
 
ArrogantU2Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ft. Worth Texas
Posts: 158
Local Time: 08:07 PM
I don't follow any party....I vote for the man.....I don't take the whole package of ANYTHING...learned that early in life from John Lennon....Susan
__________________

__________________
ArrogantU2Fan is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com