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Old 12-23-2007, 11:20 AM   #16
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The CFLs in my house are at the same color as the previous light bulbs we had.
And they're not blinky and glaring and awful?

Is the light as warm as incandescent light?
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:42 AM   #17
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And they're not blinky and glaring and awful?
No. I haven't had that experience. They seem to have very little in common with the stereotypical institutional fluorescent lights.

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Is the light as warm as incandescent light?
It can be, I'm sure. It comes down to color temperature. There are traditional light bulbs out there that are manufactured to be "white light," instead of the the traditional warm "yellow light" that most of us are used to.

Here's an example:



From left to right:

(1) Compact Fluorescent: General Electric, 13 watt, 6500 K
(2) Incandescent: Sylvania 60-Watt Extra Soft White
(3) Compact Fluorescent: Bright Effects, 15 watts, 2644 K
(4) Compact Fluorescent: Sylvania, 14 watts, 3000 K

In short, only #2 is a standard, incandescent light bulb, and while the first one is what one would expect out of a CFL, the latter two bulbs emit the same kind of light as the incandescent bulb. Notice that, in color temperature, the higher the number, the "bluer" the light source is. So, if one wants the standard indoor lighting, they should aim for a bulb around 2500K-3500K. 6500 K is "white."



Hope that helps.
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Hardly anyone protested.

There's a reason for that.

I love my CFLs. Like indra said, experiment with a few different kinds. There's one kind that I avoid that has to sort of warm up to its full brightness. In general I prefer the ones like these:

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Old 12-23-2007, 12:27 PM   #19
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Hope that helps.

Yeah. It does!
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CFLs have come down in price, too. A lot of stores even have their own knock-off versions of them, which are cheaper still.
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this is a sin

read the book


Let there be light: and there was light.
the light, it was good


Who do we think we are,
to divide the light from the darkness?
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:03 PM   #22
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Let there be light: and there was light.
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Who are we think we are,
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Actually it's a sin because when God said "let there be light" he meant incandescent light, dammit!
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:38 AM   #23
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You know, I used to see these things at target in the bin for a buck, now that they're 'enviornment savers' they are eight bucks. Looks like somebody's trying to get rich off this. boo.

I hate them. Got one in my bathroom. Can't see how to put my eye liner on right. Have to open the shades and hope the sun's out.
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Can't see how to put my eye liner on right. Have to open the shades and hope the sun's out.
That's what make-up mirrors are for.
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I just read this in Time magazine yesterday while my wife was at the doc.

The incandescent bulb uses 60 watts of power, cost $.25 to $1 per bulb, lasts about 1,000 hours and costs $262.80 to power during a five-year period.

The CFL uses 15 watts of power, costs about $2 per bulb, lasts about $10,000 hours and costs $65.70 during a five-year period.

So, we're talking $52.56 a year per bulb vs. $13.14 with the CFLs. That adds up when you consider how many bulbs you need for your home. It also doesn't factor in all the replacement bulbs you have to buy if you use incandescent bulbs.

Crazy.
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Oh, it also says the bulbs can save up to 2,000 times their weight in greenhouse gases.
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This is really silly, particularly since the new bulbs work in the exact same sockets. And, sure, they cost a little more right now, but they do last considerably longer, in addition to using less energy. However, when this law is enacted, "economies of scale" will kick in and make them cheaper--just like HDTVs, which, by the way, are increasingly necessary, considering analog TV will cease to transmit in 2009. I'm guessing our resident "libertarians" didn't bitch about that, due to the money to be made on the spectrum being vacated.

While I have had increasing libertarian tendencies over the last year, I get the sense that most self-described libertarians, at least in the U.S., are lunatics.
Not relevant to me as an individual, I switched to CFL bulbs and watch all my television on computer - although I can see the argument in favor of allowing people to use archaic technology.
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We got a couple of free CFLs in the mail today. The advertising sounds promising enough, but I can't help but think they're a little weaker than the incandescents. And what's all this I hear about them containing mercury? That can't be good.
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