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Old 03-09-2007, 07:16 PM   #31
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Yes, I watched a few and they are ranting idiots, just like the guy on the phone.

Show me facts, not opinions. Anyone can make a video on youtube. I just saw one that "proved" the whitehouse is run by aliens, should I believe it?
Link please?
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:18 PM   #32
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:22 PM   #33
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http://www.cairco.org/econ/econ.html
I expected that was your source.


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The minutemen are doing nothing wrong. If they have a permit to carry arms then they are not commiting a crime.
It's not just a matter of carrying a gun. Playing law enforcement is against the law.
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You say you support them, what about the ones, who commitied a crime, like murder, child abuse, rape etc... ( I know it's not all of them) Then they have the odacisty to come here and dictate our lives change our culture and accomidate them?
I've clarified to you in every single thread, that's it's not a point of me supporting them. Stop putting words in my mouth.

And your logic of supporting murderers is ridiculous, do you support murders who are citizens?

And who the hell is dictating anything in your life? No one's dictating a thing in mine.

Well once you start putting words in my mouth it's a sign for me to get out of here. I'm gone.
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:24 PM   #34
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I expected that was your source.



It's not just a matter of carrying a gun. Playing law enforcement is against the law.


I've clarified to you in every single thread, that's it's not a point of me supporting them. Stop putting words in my mouth.

And your logic of supporting murderers is ridiculous, do you support murders who are citizens?

And who the hell is dictating anything in your life? No one's dictating a thing in mine.

Well once you start putting words in my mouth it's a sign for me to get out of here. I'm gone.
So is all sources supposed to come from CNN? Or La Raza (fuck them)

They are observing and reporting to the proper authorities.

I don't support murder period.

I did not put words in your mouth.
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So is all sources supposed to come from CNN? Or La Raza (fuck them)
No, it just should be objective sources.
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Well I brought sources to the table with facts, but apparently it's not supported here.
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It's always a thing how you present those facts and how you use figures.
And you can easily make figures supporting your point, and you can also, by deciding which figures you use, manipulate the picture of your outcome.

And some privately shot videos uploaded to youtube are the lost source I would use for a proper discussion of any topic.


Alas, it's not in English, otherwise I could show you how even German media (public TV stations) are providing facts and use "experts" to show how evil computer games are, and how they make killers.
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I'm not getting caught back in this, I swear, but...:

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Well I brought sources to the table with facts, but apparently it's not supported here.
What an utterly ridiculous statement. Where are the facts in Abraham Lincoln's quote (and using a quote from a hundred and fifty years ago as supporting evidence is quite something...) or the quote directly below it? Sounds like opinion to me. And the fact that the site is anti-immigration does tend to color the "facts" they're going to choose to present. You're not going to get a complete picture.

It's really not that complicated. If you're only presenting or looking at one side of the picture, then you don't have enough "facts" to properly evaluate the situation. And that's a fact.
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Listen not only are we having a problem with this look at what happened to France and there problem with illegal immigration. I am sick of this shit. I am tired of hearing people say this was Mexicos land before and "La RAZA" and all that bullshit. I have a map of North America, Central and south America that shows Indian land before there was Mexico.

Why should we give them an easy way in. By doing this it gives them the impression that by gathering numbers and crying about it that they get it by doing that.
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What happened to France?
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What an utterly ridiculous statement. Where are the facts in Abraham Lincoln's quote (and using a quote from a hundred and fifty years ago as supporting evidence is quite something...) or the quote directly below it? Sounds like opinion to me. And the fact that the site is anti-immigration does tend to color the "facts" they're going to choose to present. You're not going to get a complete picture.

It's really not that complicated. If you're only presenting or looking at one side of the picture, then you don't have enough "facts" to properly evaluate the situation. And that's a fact.
Did you read the numbers? If our country ran into dispair and Mexico became #1 do you think they would do the same shit we are doing?
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Now you are getting totally unrealistic.
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What happened to France?
The riots and destruction a year or two ago.
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Now you are getting totally unrealistic.
really how? Are you saying it can't happen to a latin country?
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That was failed integration of citizens living there in second or third generation, being French citizens. Their parents or grandparents are people from France's former colonies, and now they are frustrated because they have no future prospectives.
They aren't illegal, and they are French.
But no one gives them a chance, because they get sorted out when their applications come up at the office desks of the firms.

That is such a totally different case, you can't compare it at all.

And the reasons for the riots are having nothing to do with what you are talking here.
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