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Old 02-09-2007, 01:49 AM   #46
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RTG martha!


Sorry 80's-- I was when i was a young to mid-teen really one of those "prissy" [hope that IS one of the words i'm thinking of....or maybe priggish? No Thesaurous at the Net cafe ]....
...and I'm so glad i thought myself away from that type of thinking over time.
Dazzling, I'm much older than a young to mid-teen -I'll be 40 in July- and I have no desire to change my long-held opinion that there are certain things that are not appropriate to be plastered on public billboards and marquees.

If that makes me priggish in your eyes, that's cool. Throw in a little "old fashioned" while you're at it, and that'll make me really proud.
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I only get annoyed because the term vagina has become synonymous with vulva.
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I only get annoyed because the term vagina has become synonymous with vulva.



But you do have a point.
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and I have no desire to change my long-held opinion that there are certain things that are not appropriate to be plastered on public billboards and marquees.
But why? Why is it not appropriate, just because they didn't in the 50's?
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I only get annoyed because the term vagina has become synonymous with vulva.

Mulva?


To the other point-the word vagina is in the title of the play. It's not as it they're just throwing out the word for all to see for no reason, or showing a picture of a vagina. Even if they did just put the word there for no reason, it's just a name for a body part. A picture of someone's vagina, yeah I wouldn't really want to see that on a marquee. Not that there's anything inherently offensive about a vagina, but that's where the modesty thing comes in for me. Even the picture though, if I saw it I wouldn't get freaked out or anything. And little girls already know what vaginas look like.

What about that Puppetry Of The Penis play? Would they censor that word too?
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Yes, you have to live in denial with part of your body until you are 18 (or 21).

You aren't allowed to mention that word, read that word or do anything else with that word.
This word can't be penis or vagina when you are a child, because that would hurt you for life and leave you traumatized.


This part of your body is dirty, the word is dirty, and mentioning it is a crime.

Don't ask me why, because I don't know.
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Yes, you have to live in denial with part of your body until you are 18 (or 21).

You aren't allowed to mention that word, read that word or do anything else with that word.
This word can't be penis or vagina when you are a child, because that would hurt you for life and leave you traumatized.


This part of your body is dirty, the word is dirty, and mentioning it is a crime.

Don't ask me why, because I don't know.
It doesn't have anything to do with any part of the body being dirty. I don't think any part of the body is dirty; God created the human body - he didn't create any dirty thing.

However, I come from a generation that was raised to put stock in modesty, class and decorum. That's how my parents raised me, and I'm glad.
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However, I come from a generation that was raised to put stock in modesty, class and decorum. That's how my parents raised me, and I'm glad.
Modesty? No one is flashing their vagina on this marquee or even in the show.

Class? Very subjective. Some may consider class to be able to talk to their children in a real way and not have to make up stories or words for body parts.

Decorum? Also subjective and I don't see anything that doesn't fit in decorum here. Maybe if they had used a slang term.
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Modesty? No one is flashing their vagina on this marquee or even in the show.

Class? Very subjective. Some may consider class to be able to talk to their children in a real way and not have to make up stories or words for body parts.

Decorum? Also subjective and I don't see anything that doesn't fit in decorum here. Maybe if they had used a slang term.
In a general sense, I'll just say that you and I have very different values and ideas about modesty, class and decorum. And it's not just a difference between you and I; most people of my generation and previous will have different values and beliefs concerning this than more recent generations. Just as you don't understand why I would object on those grounds, I can't understand why you wouldn't.

But I will address what you said about class specifically. What does having a play with a body part mentioned in the title have to do with the subject of talking to your children about body parts? That connection doesn't make sense to me.

And why do you assume that someone who doesn't want to see that word on a marquee is someone who won't have the conversations you're talking about with their kids? As I said, there is no connection.
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In a general sense, I'll just say that you and I have very different values and ideas about modesty, class and decorum. And it's not just a difference between you and I; most people of my generation and previous will have different values and beliefs concerning this than more recent generations. Just as you don't understand why I would object on those grounds, I can't understand why you wouldn't.
They probably aren't as different as you may think.

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But I will address what you said about class specifically. What does having a play with a body part mentioned in the title have to do with the subject of talking to your children about body parts? That connection doesn't make sense to me.

And why do you assume that someone who doesn't want to see that word on a marquee is someone who won't have the conversations you're talking about with their kids? As I said, there is no connection.
Well I was addressing your specific concern which seemed to be that the word was out in the public for a child to see. I didn't see any posts specifically about the play itself.

Your concern seemed to be that a 4 year old would say the word. That is what I was addressing.
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80´s, repeat after me:

Vagina, vagina, vagina. Penis, penis, penis.
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Well I was addressing your specific concern which seemed to be that the word was out in the public for a child to see. I didn't see any posts specifically about the play itself.
But there is still no connection between what you said and I what said about class, because of this: just because a parent doesn't want his/her child to see that word in public doesn't mean that parent is going to tell lies about body parts or make up words for it.
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80´s, repeat after me:

Vagina, vagina, vagina. Penis, penis, penis.
Repeat after me:

Classless, classless, classless. Juvenile, juvenile, juvenile.
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^ haha I knew you wouldn´t be able to do it!!



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But there is still no connection between what you said and I what said about class, because of this: just because a parent doesn't want his/her child to see that word in public doesn't mean that parent is going to tell lies about body parts or make up words for it.
Why would they care if the child sees it? I mean, if they've spoken to the child or plan on speaking to the child about what the word means, what difference does it make if they see it on a theatre marquee? It's not as if we're branding our McDonalds fries with "vagina!"
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