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Old 04-03-2015, 02:25 PM   #976
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It is highly unlikely a Muslim baker would deny a request for "a plain old regular wedding cake".

He might if the request was for a same-sex marriage cake.

If he did, I would support his right to do so.
Why would that be his right to deny when he's simply making a cake, which is nothing offensive to his religion whatshowever?

He's making a cake.

Not an offensive cake like one with a swastika.



Would you consider it discrimination if he refused to sell a cake to a black couple?
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Those mean gay bullies made them a boatload of cash.

We need to pick our battles.
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I need a boatload of gay investors to join my project for establishing a no-gay restaurant in Indiana.

All proceeds will go to the Pride Foundation.
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Old 04-03-2015, 06:56 PM   #980
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I like how deep keeps posting the link to the gofundme site.
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So what if we make a restaurant owned and operated by gay people...

Would it be fair to say "sorry we don't serve people of faith..."?
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Old 04-04-2015, 11:59 AM   #982
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No. Because religious expression is protected by law.

I mentioned at one point a gay club that banned anyone from wearing heels of more than 2" because of "safety concerns." It was really a way to try to defer large groups of girls from going into the club, but they can't say "no women allowed" because that's discrimination on the basis of gender. Which is illegal.
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So what if we make a restaurant owned and operated by gay people...

Would it be fair to say "sorry we don't serve people of faith..."?
But would it be fair to say we don't serve straight people? Cause it's against our faith we just made up?
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:17 PM   #984
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Irvine... I was getting at what GG was getting at there. As according to my "gay religion."
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This is the door that Indiana is opening.
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1. What constitutes a religion?
2. How can a faith in a specific religion be materially proven?
3. What does each state-recognized religion actually believe?

Three huge questions that seemingly were not considered before this bill was passed.
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But would it be fair to say we don't serve straight people? Cause it's against our faith we just made up?
Generally under the law there are fairly well-developed tests/thresholds for religious beliefs. Because we are operating under the common law there will be variations from jurisdiction to jurisdiction but generally speaking at a very minimum you have to demonstrate that it is a genuinely held belief. So no, you can't just "make up" a faith.
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1. What constitutes a religion?
Per Scientology, any group that can bully and harass the IRS into stamping the document that declares you a religion, is a religion.
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Per Scientology, any group that can bully and harass the IRS into stamping the document that declares you a religion, is a religion.


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Generally under the law there are fairly well-developed tests/thresholds for religious beliefs. Because we are operating under the common law there will be variations from jurisdiction to jurisdiction but generally speaking at a very minimum you have to demonstrate that it is a genuinely held belief. So no, you can't just "make up" a faith.

That's a load of crap. You don't "want" someone to make up a faith. Yes, you *can* just make up a faith. It happens all the time.
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