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Old 02-17-2014, 09:58 PM   #76
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A federal judge who struck down Virginia’s ban on gay marriage inaccurately attributed a quote from Declaration of Independence to the Constitution.
“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal. Surely this means all of us,” Arenda Wright Allen wrote in her original opinion, issued late Thursday.
Though the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees “equal protection” under the law, the Constitution does not include the phrase “all men are created equal.” That would be the Declaration of Independence.
Good thing we have these wise, constitutionally savvy judges to overturn the hateful, ignorant votes of unenlightened Virginians.
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Good thing we have these wise, constitutionally savvy judges to overturn the hateful, ignorant votes of unenlightened Virginians.


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Old 02-18-2014, 01:41 PM   #78
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The Gay Thread

CNN/TIME is running an article titled "Is 'Coming Out' Still Considered Brave?"

I hate them so much.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:49 PM   #79
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Three lottery picks in the NBA draft and a museum about the Wizard of Oz (probably).
It's in Liberal, Kansas, and it's insane. They also have a really good airplane museum there.

Welcome to Liberal!

I also can't believe that anyone's gender identity choice on freaking Facebook is a sign of the end of the world.
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I stayed overnight once in Liberal, Kansas. I was on a road trip.

Yeah.
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This thread is so gay.
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This thread is so gay.

I guess this an accurate statement...?
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:31 AM   #83
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I guess this an accurate statement...?
I know it turned me gay, that's for sure.
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To describe one's self as "straight-acting" when one is gay is internalized homophobia.

How would we feel if a black person describes himself as "white-acting"?
Exactly. I didn't deny what you were saying. You got me wrong.
But I would examplify "internalized homophobia" with other examples rather than this, so it gets easier to understand.
Thus, to claim straight-acting is always coming from a heterossexual-normative social-base.
I'd give the example of gays that can't stand queers, or pride parades, or gays that will never get out of the closet and still go with mothers to the church on sunday mornings, or gay deputees that vote against them selves, etc etc, for that to be easier to understand.
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I'd give the example of gays that can't stand queers, or pride parades, or gays that will never get out of the closet and still go with mothers to the church on sunday mornings, or gay deputees that vote against them selves, etc etc, for that to be easier to understand.

the problem is the restrictive idea of what being gay is -- something that comes from being defined by the majority, but also the idea of a "mainstream" gay culture, something that happens to all minority groups -- and how many people feel isolated from that, and therefore feel as if they're "straight-acting." they're not, they're gay acting since they presumably are emotionally and physically attracted to men. so the work that needs to be done by the gay community is to expand understandings of gayness and emphasize inclusion.
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I'll fire one up.
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Diemen, could you copy the conversation over to there somehow, or would splitting this thread be too confusing?
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Yup. It'll take a little while... have to go through and select each post individually.
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Lovely, thanks!
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speaking of slippery slopes, look out ladies!

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"If gay marriage is perceived as legitimate by heterosexual women, it will eventually embolden boyfriends everywhere -- and not a few husbands -- to press for what men have always historically wanted but were rarely allowed: sexual novelty in the form of permission to stray without jeopardizing their primary relationship. Discussion of openness in sexual partners in straight marriages will become more common, just as the practice of heterosexual anal sex got a big boost from the normalization of gay men's sexual behavior in both contemporary porn and in the American imagination." - Discredited researcher Mark Regnerus, speaking at Franciscan University.
yeah, that's the same researcher who did that junk study about gay parents.
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