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Old 05-01-2014, 12:13 AM   #406
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Wow - it seems you guys have just about cleared out any dissenting voices in FYM. Congratulations...


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Old 05-01-2014, 03:24 AM   #407
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Ehh did I miss something?
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And if U2 EVER did Hawkmoon live....and the version from the Lovetown Tour, my uterus would leave my body and fling itself at Bono - for realz.
Don't worry baby, it's gonna be all right. Uncertainty can be a guiding light...
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THat's great, so why isn't that law lived by? Why is the one religious belief of Christians so much more important that that of everyone else?

Apparently so! But yeah, same with lung cancer. It's almost like it's 'cool' to have such a stupid disease, and it's the pitfall of our medical science developments. Since we can cure so much now, the idiots don't die as easily and they reproduce much faster, thus more idiots are born. It's an ongoing cycle that will eventually kill off human life as we know it.
Why, GG don't you know that 'Merica IS a Christian Nation?!



Actually many of the Founding Fathers were Deists, not Christians.

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deism |ˈdēizəm| noun belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind. Compare with theism .
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GG, how do you know for sure you are not going do something(s) in the future that might have you end up wwith a "stupid disease" .

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I understand what you are saying, GG, but resentment against undesirable people for reproducing is rather a dangerous road to go down, don't you think?
yeah, really.

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It's no road to go down, it's simply an observation of society as it is. There's a reason most animal species have a completely different system where the weak die and the strong species live on. Yet us humans choose to defy this so we have to live with the consequences.

But maybe this is a topic for a different thread... then again one could argue that gays do the human race and mother earth a favour as they do not reproduce.
Another thread? ...no, not when you say something rather provoking like that.

We are the same AND different than animals. SO....Kill the Weak? Or let's say- leave them to their own devices no extra kind of medical/ benifits help? WHich would usually ( unless the family/person was quite well off) means they'd die faster.

So should Stephen Hawkins have been left to his own devises? Mohamid Ali once he got Parikson's? Helen Keller....what about her?

The fact IS that human beings have multiple aspects to them besides their physicality. Their various Intellegencies, Creativity, Ethics, for those inclined Spirituality. Deficiency in one ...even 2 doesn't mean other important areas are major pontentials for vitality, and valuable to the person, the people that care about them, and may be of importance to that person's local area/state/province/prefecture etc , a country , the world, even, in some cases.
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You're putting words in my mouth that I have never said. I merely stated an observation, no opinion or sentiment.

Is it not true that most animal species leave behind the weak? That the weak get eaten by a different species? And is it also not true that humankind has found that ethically reprehensible and has thus been searching for means to defy that? That we developed medical care and a society that is going in against this?

I never stated whether it's wrong or right. I merely stated. Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.



and sure, I never know for sure if I'll ever catch some stupid disease. Because I can't look into the future. Nobody can. But I can do what I need to prevent things like that. By working out, eating healthily and not having sex without condoms. That leaves out quite a lot of stupid diseases already.
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This is how I think God sees us. Aside from how we treat gays, we are all awful to each other. Sometimes I wonder why God hasn't thrown the towel on us and gone off to create another planet where its intelligent beings would actually be intelligent.
The cartoon is quite funny

OTOH hand are you suffering from rfeal depression OR havs some one really done you wrong reccently?

IF either are so....I'm sorry to hear that, and hope better times ahead for you. Either situation could certainly could edvoke such a response.

to nake such an overblown, over-genralization..... about how people treat each other?


sheeesh.........
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Wow - it seems you guys have just about cleared out any dissenting voices in FYM. Congratulations...
lol okay bro
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Well if we're just going to ridicule the dissenting voice, it kind of proves his point, doesn't it?

It's true that FYM has become a bit of an echo chamber lately.
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I think it's more of a ghost town now.

Anyways, I don't think those arguments involving INDY were particularly fruitful or really worth it in the end were they.
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I think it's more of a ghost town now.
That's probably a more accurate description.

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It definitely would be nice to have more people of opposing viewpoints interested in discussing things in good faith.
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Oh it absolutely is lacking in dissenting voices. But it sure as shit isn't because liberals conspired to force conservatives out. I find this place way more interesting when it isn't an echo chamber.

Blaming liberals for forcing conservatives out of this forum is lazy and deserves ridicule.
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i agree that it's more that fym is a ghost town, as can be said for much of the forum. as for the dwindling number of conservatives, that's on them, not everyone else.
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It's not just FYM, US politics in general has lost real all real discourse. It's just echo chambers and victim playing. Those that used to blame others for playing victim have become experts at it. Those that said 'isms were being thrown around so loosely that the terms have lost meaning have now actually become correct. The misuse of "religious freedom" has now just become a shroud which to hide behind. And you can't debate using scientific fact because science has now once again become acquainted with the likes of witchcraft and socialism.

It's all become rather boring.
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You're putting words in my mouth that I have never said. I merely stated an observation, no opinion or sentiment.

Is it not true that most animal species leave behind the weak? That the weak get eaten by a different species? And is it also not true that humankind has found that ethically reprehensible and has thus been searching for means to defy that? That we developed medical care and a society that is going in against this?

I never stated whether it's wrong or right. I merely stated. Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.
Ok...apologies there.

And yes I've watched Nature TV (thank you Public Television) up to my wazoo when I was younger- so I know all about that!

But I will add that at least for me when you made that first observation IF you had then also said in the first post what you just stated in this post-- humans finding that unethical and finding ways ways to counteract that -- THEN I would have not had I think such a reaction because at least you stated both observations.

For me by just having that first and only-- i took it to mean you supported that line of thinking.

if you should feel that way... i have no intention right now about dicussing it.
It's enough right now(in the USA) to have to fight against some very cruel, greedy right-wing Republicans, Conservtiives and a few greedy Democrats as well here on. And some who want to practice "Social Darwinism" etc

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and sure, I never know for sure if I'll ever catch some stupid disease. Because I can't look into the future. Nobody can. But I can do what I need to prevent things like that. By working out, eating healthily and not having sex without condoms. That leaves out quite a lot of stupid diseases already.
and good for you. I'm inclined that way myself. ANd for some other people things like that don't pan out as well, more issues to why they don't etc. I try to keep the judgemental factor on the lower side.
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It's not just FYM, US politics in general has lost real all real discourse. It's just echo chambers and victim playing. Those that used to blame others for playing victim have become experts at it. Those that said 'isms were being thrown around so loosely that the terms have lost meaning have now actually become correct...It's all become rather boring.


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Hanging out with gay men it's fun, I have had more chances to meet more beautiful straight girls by hanging out with gays than with heterosexual men.
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