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Old 08-12-2014, 03:38 PM   #976
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That's if you believe that people are being served chicken stock and soup and potatoes with ZERO salt.

Much more likely it's "reduced sodium" as ZERO salt is nearly inedible. iron horse isn't known for accuracy in reporting.
this. If everything you eat is loaded with salt it will take a while to readjust to less salt. Plus if these kids are going home and eating an "average North American diet" then all their other meals probably contain way too much salt anyway.
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:35 PM   #977
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Is it the salt or the high fructose corn syrup aka "corn sugar"? My vote is both.


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The real issue is the right's disinterest in funding public education. To mass produce food that is both healthy and tastes good in a public school would cost a significant amount of money, an amount of money almost no public school district in the country has. And food is far from the only financial issue these districts are facing. So, the districts need more funding. But they're not going to get it, because half of our government is solely focused on saving rich people money.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:22 PM   #979
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So a district wants to decide for themselves the source of their school food, and manages to save money doing so, and that's a disregard for public education? Why does money allotted for educational programs even have to be tied into a lunch program?


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So a district wants to decide for themselves the source of their school food, and manages to save money doing so, and that's a disregard for public education? Why does money allotted for educational programs even have to be tied into a lunch program?


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You're not understanding what I am saying. I am saying that almost every district, as a whole, doesn't have enough money.
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So a district wants to decide for themselves the source of their school food, and manages to save money doing so, and that's a disregard for public education? Why does money allotted for educational programs even have to be tied into a lunch program?


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You could also feed them cardboard and paper mâché and save money. You're missing the point left and right.


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Old 08-12-2014, 10:52 PM   #982
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I don't think I was. I was referring In specific to the article referring to the "ripping" of the federal program. The district was streamlining their own cafeteria program and ended up saving money. I didn't see anywhere that this specific district planned on serving non healthy food.

As an aside I agree with the creation of competitively priced healthy food and that part of our focus should be on a healthy diet as well as appropriate amounts of exercise. As data has supported it's role in the primary prevention of disease.

If I came off as political I apologize, not the place for that kind of talk for me.

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I don't think I was. I was referring In specific to the article referring to the "ripping" of the federal program. The district was streamlining their own cafeteria program and ended up saving money. I didn't see anywhere that they planned on serving non healthy food. That is all.


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Well you are, because you keep referencing it in the wrong context; first to a joke then to another point entirely.

Read the "article" again, it oozes with bullshit.

It claims the school will net more, not save. It's speculation. And they are probably right, you can profit more on junk food right now.

But none of this is the point.

If the FDA didn't exist do you believe corporations would monitor themselves in order to reach a minimum standard?

Reagan had the physical fitness initiative, it cost schools(and students), do you think iron horse was against that? Of course not, he was Reagan. Were you?


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I don't think I was. I was referring In specific to the article referring to the "ripping" of the federal program. The district was streamlining their own cafeteria program and ended up saving money. I didn't see anywhere that this specific district planned on serving non healthy food.

As an aside I agree with the creation of competitively priced healthy food and that part of our focus should be on a healthy diet as well as appropriate amounts of exercise. As data has supported it's role in the primary prevention of disease.

If I came off as political I apologize, not the place for that kind of talk for me.

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Now with your new edit, I apologize.

I agree with what you are saying, but that is not what these articles are about. Iron is posting highly biased commentaries with a lot of bullshit and lies.

I'd stay away from trying to defend them and read about all sides.


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Agreed. It would be nice to debate and discuss. But moreso from the perspective of someone who has his or her own beliefs, and can share the information that led him or her to that conclusion, and for those involved in the discussion to read and consider it. Dare to dream




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If the FDA didn't exist do you believe corporations would monitor themselves in order to reach a minimum standard?
I think people are jumping in on Iron Horse in a way that doesn't sit well, but I'm inclined to agree that there's a certain inconsistency as regards the libertarian critique of government power - whereby the trust liberatarians don't put in government (for good reasons, often) is inversely related to a kind of, frankly, rather touching, trust and confidence in large scale corporations to do 'the right thing'.

In my lifetime, from the Austrian wine scandal of the 1980s through to the BSE scandal in the 1990s, through to, more recently, the horsemeat scandal in Europe, it's often privateer corporations and insufficient enforcement of such laws that do exist, that are often to blame, IMO.
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I think people are jumping in on Iron Horse in a way that doesn't sit well, but I'm inclined to agree that there's a certain inconsistency as regards the libertarian critique of government power - whereby the trust liberatarians don't put in government (for good reasons, often) is inversely related to a kind of, frankly, rather touching, trust and confidence in large scale corporations to do 'the right thing'.

In my lifetime, from the Austrian wine scandal of the 1980s through to the BSE scandal in the 1990s, through to, more recently, the horsemeat scandal in Europe, it's often privateer corporations and insufficient enforcement of such laws that do exist, that are often to blame, IMO.

No one is "jumping". This poster has a loooooong history of posting links that are filled with lies, saying he'll come back and respond when he doesn't, and being condescending.

We've given this poster years of patience.


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That's if you believe that people are being served chicken stock and soup and potatoes with ZERO salt.

Much more likely it's "reduced sodium" as ZERO salt is nearly inedible. iron horse isn't known for accuracy in reporting.
if someone can even point me to some chicken broth more than 33% reduced sodium, i'd appreciate it. just because their chicken soup doesn't have the week's worth of sodium content like the top ramen they're used to eating, doesn't mean it has no salt at all.
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