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Old 06-04-2012, 11:26 PM   #856
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Some conservatives advocate and discuss.

Some liberals seek to make the law suit their own particular prejudice, and enforce it onto others.

Big difference.
Fixed that for you.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:33 AM   #857
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:59 PM   #858
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Since when is Bloomberg the essence of modern liberalism?

Thanks for another dispatch from inside the bubble.
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Isn't Bloomberg at most a 'moderate' and has not he had associations with the GOP?

But, back to his new proposal, most likely a loser for him. Sure he is right. But where does government draw the line.

If a tall skinny guy wants to drink a big gulp, who cares.

We do have 'sin' taxes on alcohol and tobacco. Many consumer products contribute significantly to obesity and diabetes health problems and costs.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:29 PM   #860
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Perhaps the wailing and sobbing over not getting one's diary drink while at the same time seeking to deny cancer patients and MS sufferers medical marijuana is the heart of modern day conservativism? Or states with the highest rates of divorce, infidelity, and out-of-wedlock births -- not to mention some who include all african-american piverty -- blaming such things on gay people?
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ok,

except the medical marijuana thing is total and complete bullshit
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:28 PM   #862
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i see.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:11 PM   #863
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Thanks for another dispatch from inside the bubble.
George Will on This Week surrounded by Democratic operatives like George Stephanopoulos (Clinton), Donna Brazile (Gore) and Stephanie Cutter (Obama) is "inside the bubble"?
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Riiiight, because only liberals do that.


That's not modern liberalism - that's politics. Or would you like to try and argue that conservatives don't try to push their views on others?
Conservatives are not libertarians but it's no coincidence that the banning of table salt, trans fats, Big Gulps, school bake sales and Happy Meals is being initiated in Blue America (New York City, Massachusetts and San Francisco).
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and family friendly Disney




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Disney's new diet for kids: No more junk food ads

The Walt Disney Co. has become the first major media company to ban junk-food advertising on programming that targets children.

Building on a healthy-foods initiative in its theme parks, Disney imposed new standards for food and beverages advertised on Disney XD and during the Saturday morning programs on Disney-owned ABC television stations. Disney Channel and Disney Junior, which are not ad-supported but receive brand sponsorships, would also be covered under the nutrition guidelines, officials said.

Kanter Media, a research firm specializing in advertising, estimated the total amount of ad spending for this kind of advertising on Disney-owned channels and Saturday morning children's programming on ABC totaled $7.2 million in 2011.

First Lady Michelle Obama, who has made fighting the childhood obesity epidemic and promoting healthy eating a hallmark of her time in the White House, praised Disney's initiative at a Tuesday morning news conference at the Newseum in Washington.

"This new initiative is truly a game-changer for the health of our children," Obama said. "So, for years, people told us that no matter what we did to get our kids to eat well and exercise, we would never solve our childhood obesity crisis until companies changed the way that they sell food to our children. We all know the conventional wisdom about that. ... Today, Disney has turned that conventional wisdom on its head."

Six years ago, Disney instituted healthier food options at its theme parks in Anaheim and Orlando, Fla., automatically including carrots and low-fat milk in children's meals unless parents requested otherwise. Its consumer products division changed its licensed food program so that 85% of its offerings comply with the company's nutrition guidelines. It even chose to stop licensing its characters for McDonald's "Happy Meals," citing the links between fast food and childhood obesity.

Food and beverage advertisers who seek to promote their products on Disney Channel or Disney XD will be required by 2015 to meet guidelines regarding serving size, calories, fat and sugar content. The guidelines are aligned with federal standards promoting fruit and vegetable consumption and calling for limiting calories and reducing saturated fat, sodium and sugar.


"We've taken steps across our company to support better choices for families," Disney Chairman and Chief Executive Robert A. Iger said in a statement. "And now, we're taking the next important step forward by setting new food advertising standards for kids."

Obama said kids are exposed to food and beverage marketing that adds up to an estimated $1.6 billion a year, including many ads for foods that are high in calories and sugar but low in nutrition.

"Our kids are constantly bombarded with sophisticated messages designed to sell them foods that simply aren't good for them," Obama said. "And let me tell you, we know it works, right?"

Many parents make the effort to prepare nutritious meals and healthy snacks, Obama said, but when kids turn on their favorite shows, those efforts are undermined during the commercial break.

"That's why I am so thrilled about today's announcements," she said. "I am thrilled that Disney is stepping forward in such a big way."

Obama has used other children's television networks to get out her healthy-living message. Last year, she joined in Nickelodeon’s Worldwide Day of Play, an effort to get kids involved in healthy activities and away from the TV for at least three hours a day..
Disney bans junk-food advertising on programs for kids - latimes.com
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Conservatives are not libertarians but it's no coincidence that the banning of table salt, trans fats, Big Gulps, school bake sales and Happy Meals is being initiated in Blue America (New York City, Massachusetts and San Francisco).
Well is it a coincidence that "Red America" is targeting minorities, allowing killers who shot their victim in the back set free because they claimed "stand your ground", or drafting up sodomy laws?

Is this coincidence or just bettering Amerika?
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George Will on This Week surrounded by Democratic operatives like George Stephanopoulos (Clinton), Donna Brazile (Gore) and Stephanie Cutter (Obama) is "inside the bubble"?


Yes. Did you read the quote you posted?
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Disney too?

Has anyone considered that this is the free market, i.e. glorious capitalism, at its finest? That maybe fatty foods full of sugar are being tossed by the wayside because the public is becoming more and more familiar with proper nutritional requirements and is starting to demand lower calorie foods?

Years ago when I started working at the firm, at our lunch seminars you'd see cans of pop, juice and the water that was always available (not bottled). Half diet pop, half regular. They all went. Fast forward to this year - the first half of the attendees took all the Diet Coke, the remainder, save for one or two people, opted for filtered tap water rather than the sugared stuff. Today? You probably have a 80/20 split in favour of the diet stuff on the tables. Food police or free market choices at work?
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Yet it's not the public deciding this; it's the government. I haven't seen a drop in fast food sales lately.

edit: referring to the bans and extra taxes on fatty/bad foods; not to disney.
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Disney too?

Has anyone considered that this is the free market, i.e. glorious capitalism, at its finest? That maybe fatty foods full of sugar are being tossed by the wayside because the public is becoming more and more familiar with proper nutritional requirements and is starting to demand lower calorie foods?

Food police or free market choices at work?
When Wendy's and others start to offer salads, wraps and diet sodas... that's a for-profit corporation responding to market demands.

When a government official bans sodas of a certain size, Happy Meals or Ding Dongs & Twinkies in the school lunch room... that's the food police.
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