While there may be some humility involved in the process of testing and revising rational propositions against the challenges offered to them by others, I would say that nonetheless the belief (ha ha) in the ultimate meaningfulness and purpose of rational inquiry which underlies and enables such testing is itself fundamentally arrogant--however instinctive and unavoidable. Not that I would suggest religious belief is by contrast innately humble; I don't--though I would hesitate to call it innately arrogant prior to the point where it merges with rational thinking to yield a set of conclusions about what follows from it (i.e. the particularities of religious dogma and practice). In either case, though, a worthwhile "compromise" humility can be achieved by complementing that arrogance with an awareness that, fallible as we are, we cannot ultimately lay claim to an exclusive monopoly on the knowledge our thoughts and beliefs alike are straining towards.
would that everyone of faith were like you, and also like NBC.
so often, and i felt this way about the initial post in the thread, beliefs are simply laid out there as statements of fact, and they become fact by virtue of their status as "a religious belief" -- that the require no explanation, no thought, no justification, no testing in the real world to see how the hold up in the face of evidence to the contrary. it often seems as if the presence of a religious text inspires a head-in-the-sand thinking about certain subjects. i'd think that belief tempered by doubt is that much stronger, but it seems as if there's an unwillingness to test one's beliefs when they provide comfort and stability in a very, very complex world.
and i know that there are many people of faith you are rigorous in their thought process. i just felt as if the manner in which this thread was started -- here's what i *believe* -- was both confrontationalist and feel-good-ist (if such a word might exist), as it feels so good to make strong declarations of faith in a public forum.