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Old 06-05-2011, 08:05 PM   #796
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Non-argumentative question: If the laws were amended to allow gay marriage, what would the definition of marriage be? Just curious as to what people think.
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Seems kind of straightforward, actually.

1. The formal union of a man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become life partners.

2. The legal union of a man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman as life partners, usually entailing legal obligations of each person to the other.

3. the social institution under which a man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman establish their decision to live as life partners by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

Etc, etc, etc
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I'd imagine it would be the same as whatever Massachusetts has on the books.
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the legal union of two consenting adults?

(this is also a very modern definition, btw, since 30-40 years ago, we let adults marry teenagers)
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Yeah, what was the legal definition decades ago?

For reals. What was it?
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i imagine it would vary, if it was defined at all ... too late for me to look it up now.

but here's the thing -- is romantic love a part of this pillar of Western Civilization?

i'd argue that, up until 50 years ago, love had very little to do with most marriages.
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My quote does say "far-Left" does it not?

I'm talking about the revolutionary Left and their useful idiots (especially on college campuses and the web) that will work with anyone who seeks the destruction of Western society and capitalism. The same revolutionary Left that infects the green movement for the same aims. The Left that decries the imperial United States as the great oppressor and abuser of human rights. And the same radical Left that sympathized with communist causes during the Cold War and continues to romanticize Castro, Chavez, Mao and Che.

That Left.

Sorry for any confusion.
I agree with you sometimes, but this "far-left" rhetoric is treading into murky Bill O'Reilly talking points waters. You didn't manage to mention "filthy hippies" or "eco-terrorists" or something about dolphins or Greenpeace though, might want to hit those as well

One can be centrist and be able to rationally look at his country and recognize that it has historically done/is doing some pretty shitty stuff.
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if it was defined at all ...
This is what I was wondering.
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So..there aren't any gay individuals or couples at Disney on any other given day? Run for your life Mickey!

'Gay Days at Disney' Draws Protest, Warning From the Sky, Christian News

For those living near Disney World in Florida, there is a good chance you saw an aircraft pulling the following banner, “Warning Gay Pride Day@Disney 2Day.”

The message is from the Christian group Florida Family Association, which paid for the banner to run across the sky on Friday and Saturday.

“30,000 children along with their unsuspecting parents will be confronted with the reality of witnessing over 15,000 Gay Pride Day revelers when they enter the Magic Kingdom on June 4, 2011,” wrote FFA on its website.

“Florida Family Association wants to warn these families about this offensive event before they arrive at the Magic Kingdom on Saturday.”

The FFA paid reportedly $7,000, money donated by supporters, to contract an aircraft company to pull two seven-foot high banners during those two days over Disney World, reported Orlando’s WESH-TV. The pro-family group is upset with Disney for allowing Gay Day attendees to hold their event during regular business hours, unlike other special events.

“Disney requires special events like Grad Night and Night of Joy to be held after the Magic Kingdom’s regular operating hours,” contends FFA. “Disney does this to avoid having a large group of likeminded people in the park at the same time with regular patrons who expect a normal day at the Magic Kingdom.”

Gay Days is a six-day gathering, May 31 to June 6, in Orlando. It is an annual event that has taken place for some 20 years.
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“Warning Jewish Pride Day@Disney 2Day.”
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“Warning Black Pride Day@Disney 2Day.”
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“Warning Latin Pride Day@Disney 2Day.”
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“Warning Women's Pride Day@Disney 2Day.”


imagine how that would feel.
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I'm going to guess what scares them is that if there was no announcement that it was Gay Pride Day, they wouldn't even know it. It just would be another happy day with happy parents and happy kids at Disney World.

Yes, gay people walk among us, and they are in the most cunning camouflage ever... normal-looking, average people.

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I have a feeling family groups think their kids are going to get showered in free condoms or hit by stray fecal matter from all the public buggery/hedonism going on during Gay Pride Day at Disney.
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i'd argue that, up until 50 years ago, love had very little to do with most marriages.
Was Romeo and Juliet written in 1961?

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Was Romeo and Juliet written in 1961?

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ah, but if i remember high school freshman english, the big argument was whether these kids (they were what, 13 and 15?) were in love or in lust!

(the marriage was just so they could have sex )
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(the marriage was just so they could have sex )
Not so sure about that one. The (SPOILER ALERT!) dual suicide of the main characters at the end would seem to indicate far more than the antics of two really, really horny teenagers.

And anyone familiar with the poetry of Blake, Shelly, Moore, Shakespeare, (or even a really old dude like Solomon) knows that the notion of romantic love is not exactly a new concept.
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