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Old 03-24-2011, 10:30 PM   #646
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:43 PM   #647
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Please explain why a mom and dad are not the ideal family.

Please explain why the the destruction of this family unit has been a positive event for this generation.
I'm still waiting for an answer from you...

Why is a crack addict and a convicted felon better for a child than two loving parents?
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:11 PM   #648
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I haven't read this whole thread, but out of curiosity, is there a reason that the only two choices are A: crack head and felon, or B: gay couple?
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I haven't read this whole thread, but out of curiosity, is there a reason that the only two choices are A: crack head and felon, or B: gay couple?
Now who said the gay couple couldn't be the crack head and convicted felon and the straight couple couldn't be the loving parents?

If you're catching my drift here...
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I haven't read this whole thread, but out of curiosity, is there a reason that the only two choices are A: crack head and felon, or B: gay couple?

given those two choices
just drown the children.
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Oh, I see what you're saying. Sorry, apparently I'm slow tonight .

Anyway. I'm a christian, and I don't think anyone would argue that a child has the best chance to grow up into a healthy, happy individual if he/she is endowed with loving parents, regardless of their sexual preferences.

I don't believe that holds relevance in the debate about same sex marriages, though.
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I haven't read this whole thread, but out of curiosity, is there a reason that the only two choices are A: crack head and felon, or B: gay couple?


yes.

because if you're going to deny gay people the right to get married solely because they are gay, then you have to contend that straight people are always, and in all cases, superior to gay people by virtue of their heterosexuality.

so a child is always better off with Charlie Sheen and his goddesses than with Neil Patrick Harris and his partner.

this is what the National Organization for Marriage contends:

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“Two men might each be a good father, but neither can be a mom. The ideal for children is the love of their own mom and dad. No same-sex couple can provide that.”

“Every man and woman who marries is capable of giving any child they create (or adopt) a mother and a father. No same-sex couple can do this. It’s apples and oranges.”

http://www.nationformarriage.org/sit...ing_Points.htm
otherwise, you have to concede the point that sexual orientation isn't a determining factor for either marriage or parenthood, and when you do that, you realize that there is no intellectually justifiable reason to prevent gay people from participating in either on the basis of their sexual orientation.

so, yes, straight crackheads can be a mother and a father in a way that i can never be a mother, and therefore, the straight crackheads get to get married and i don't.
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I don't believe that holds relevance in the debate about same sex marriages, though.


exactly. we do not require parents to be married, nor do we require married people to be parents.

like these people:

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Man turns 100 by marrying 93-year-old girlfriend
March 22, 2011|By BRITTANY LEVINE

For Forrest Lunsway, reaching a century of life was only the half of it. On his 100th birthday Saturday, Lunsway married his 93-year-old girlfriend, Rose Pollard.

The wedding – a surprise for most in attendance – was a long time coming.

Lunsway and Pollard met almost three decades ago. They were both looking for dance partners after their significant others passed away, and mutual friends set them up on a blind date Dec. 18, 1983. It was a Christmas party at the Long Beach Senior Center and the two danced the night away.

Lunsway asked Pollard out on a date, but he lived in Cypress and she lived in Capistrano Beach.

"He lived 40 miles away. It was what you call geographically undesirable. I didn't think it would last," Pollard said.

But the two would meet halfway and go on dates. Sometimes, Lunsway would drive to pick up Pollard for a night out and then drive home.

"If someone will do that, you know that's something," Pollard said.

About 20 years later, Lunsway sold his house in Cypress and moved to Capistrano Beach to live with Pollard. Then he asked her to marry him.

"I told him I would marry him on his 100th birthday," Pollard said, laughing. "I had never intended for him to remember."
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In my opinion, the main problem with legalizing same sex marriages is it blurs the lines of the definition of marriage. It could be a seriously slippery slope
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In my opinion, the main problem with legalizing same sex marriages is it blurs the lines of the definition of marriage. It could be a seriously slippery slope

if someone would like to step forward and argue why X group who is currently prevented from marrying should be allowed to do so, they can go ahead and do so.
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It could be a seriously slippery slope
Towards what, exactly?
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a tree can't consent.

problem solved.

also, i am not committing crimes, like incest or polygamy, just to get that out of the way.
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Towards what, exactly?

Well, if the only requirement for marriage is love, what's to stop a judge from using the same sex marriage ruling (if approved) to justify a man marrying his cousin? Or a woman marrying two men?

Now don't get my wrong, I'm not saying same sex marriage is on the same level as these things. Not even close. I'm just saying, it does blur the lines a bit.
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You know I never realized how ridiculous half of this is until reading some of the responses earlier in the pages.

I think I'm going to become an ALLY on campus, because honestly heterosexism is stupid.
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