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Old 03-22-2011, 12:09 AM   #616
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no, really guys, Springsteen aside, isn't it HILARIOUS that someone would use Adam and Eve as a reference point for the ideal family when they gave birth to one son who murdered the other?

he'd have been much better of with Amanda and Eve.
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The worst part of that video is that you find out that Clarence can't dance either. I always assumed Bruce wouldn't be able to dance, but come on Clarence. You're the sax player. You're supposed to have sexy dancing down.
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no, really guys, Springsteen aside, isn't it HILARIOUS that someone would use Adam and Eve as a reference point for the ideal family when they gave birth to one son who murdered the other?
I'm sure it was all Eve's fault anyway. She probably wanted a career instead of being home to raise her sons properly.
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he'd have been much better of with Amanda and Eve.
But that's not the way Pop God wanted it.

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Well this is what happens in a culture that produces "expressions" of "faith" like:

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Here's a question for you.

What is the best situation for a child to be raised in?

A mom and dad?
I knew you weren't capable of doing this like an adult.

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That's the plan and it is the best plan for the children.
Please. Just stop.

And to Victoria Jackson, ummmmm...don't watch the show if it bothers you that much ? My sister and I watched it last week and from what I remember, the sun still came up the next day and life went on as usual, so...

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Please. Just stop.
My sister and I watched it last week and from what I remember,
the sun still came up the next day and life went on as usual, so...

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Were you watching it in Japan?
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what is it with conservatives where they seemingly sit around watching things that offend them? if glee and homosexuality offends you, don't watch glee. to unpoliticise (is that even a word?) it, i hate country music, so i don't listen to it. i don't sit around listening to clint black or someone going "omg i fucking hate this song! god it sucks! he just needs to stop recording music." though i suppose to put it on par with jackson's comments i suppose i should insult rednecks too.
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what is it with conservatives where they seemingly sit around watching things that offend them?
To be honest I can't do anything except laugh. Usually when someone brings up a homophobic subject or remark, it's in the context of something that is, in reality, super gay.

Sports? Football? Ass-slapping, towel-whipping, tight lycra pants? Super gay.
The Army? Bored, sweaty guys in tank tops back at base camp calling each other fag. Lady Gaga parodies on YouTube Drunk Katy Perry singalongs. Super gay.
The gym? More ass-slapping, ogling other guys, grunting, sweat. Super gay.

Kind of ironic.
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Sports? Football? Ass-slapping, towel-whipping, tight lycra pants? Super gay.
The Army? Bored, sweaty guys in tank tops back at base camp calling each other fag.
The gym? More ass-slapping, ogling other guys, grunting, sweat. Super gay.


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what is it with conservatives where they seemingly sit around watching things that offend them?
What is it with liberals where they do the same thing with Glenn Beck and Rush? Plenty of people on both sides of the ideological aisle watch what the other group does and calls foul on it. "Glee" is a cultural influence the same way that Beck and Rush are cultural influences; they catch flak when they present viewpoints that their antagonists don't like.
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What is it with liberals where they do the same thing with Glenn Beck and Rush? Plenty of people on both sides of the ideological aisle watch what the other group does and calls foul on it. "Glee" is a cultural influence the same way that Beck and Rush are cultural influences; they catch flak when they present viewpoints that their antagonists don't like.


"Glee" isn't pretending to be news, though. i think that's a fair distinction.

but at the end of the day, all these shows are motivated by ratings, and believe me, having Kurt and Blaine kiss would never have happened had executives at Fox not done their research and decided that it would be a very good idea for their ratings. obviously, teenagers are more than ready for a love story involving two gay high schoolers that shows a (still very chaste ... remember the bed hopping heteros of Dawson's Creek over a decade ago?) small amount of physical affection. television reflects the perceived interests and values of it's viewers, and this is where the "Glee" audience is.

(and i know you know all that ... just using your post as a jumping off point)
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"Glee" isn't pretending to be news, though. i think that's a fair distinction.
But it reflects a worldview. I don't think that's any great shock; Ryan Murphy makes no apology for it, nor should he. (Sorkin was recently speaking at an event and said, "All art has a point of view.") The question was, "what's with conservatives watching things they don't like" -- as if only conservatives do it. (Rush and Beck's audiences sure aren't just conservatives.) Everyone likes getting mad at the other side; it's the way it is. And it does indeed drive up the ratings you mentioned...
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