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Old 01-31-2011, 10:48 PM   #511
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Wow. Dare I even dignify this with a response? Are you seriously that ignorant and unintelligent to draw such ridiculous conclusions? Extremely worrying!


4 out of 5 of my male friends turn away from my naked private parts, that is 80%, an overwhelming majority.

I have taken this survey several times, (and we are all straight, GOP, religious moral men)
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:34 PM   #512
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(and we are all straight, GOP, religious moral men)

aka, gay.
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How will boys raised by two women be able to carry on traditional American values like "kickin' ass" and "stuffing sad feelings so far down inside so that the hurt stops"?
Real men sit, sweat, and curse.
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also, if it's so critical for a child to have a mother and a father (which, sure, it usually is) why don't you focus your efforts on helping heterosexuals be less fucked up in their relationships rather than kicking gay people?

seems like two gay people getting married has little to do with dysfunctional heterosexuals.
A man and a woman as parents didn't really do all that much for me. If the gender part was all that was needed well I would have been all set. There seems to be an implied assumption that it's a happy, healthy relationship. Either that or no matter how horribly dysfunctional a straight relationship is, somehow it's still superior to two male or two female parents. Or that's automatically, innately, "dysfunctional" somehow?

Apparently the deal with the Elton John baby cover was that a few people complained about it in that store and that's why they covered it. Supposedly the policy is to cover it when they get complaints.

I love living where you don't see those covers in supermarkets. The only place I've seen them is in a few smaller stores, where minors would be, that sell Playboy, Hustler, etc. There's just something so sad to me about covering a picture of an innocent baby and his two loving parents.
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That's one very impressive 19 year old. Seems to be very well raised.

A 19-year-old University of Iowa engineering student defended gay marriage in a rousing testimony in front of the Iowa House of Representatives on Tuesday. Zack Wahls spoke out against a resolution which would end civil unions in Iowa by describing his own experience as the son of two lesbian partners.

"Our family really isn't so different from any other Iowa family," said Wahls. "When I am home, we go to church together, we eat dinner, we go on vacations."

Wahls emphasized the typical nature of his upbringing, as well as his own success. He is an Eagle Scout and a small business owner. He also scored in the 99th percentile on the ACT. "If I was your son, Mr. Chairman, I believe I would make you very proud," he said.

Wahls, a sixth-generation Iowan, finished his testimony on an impassioned note. "In my 19 years not once have I ever been confronted by an individual who realized independently that I was raised by a gay couple," he said. "And you know why? Because the sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character."


YouTube - Zach Wahls Speaks About Family
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I thought someone else would have posted this by now


YouTube - Barbara Bush Gay Marriage Supporter
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That's one very impressive 19 year old. Seems to be very well raised.

A 19-year-old University of Iowa engineering student defended gay marriage in a rousing testimony in front of the Iowa House of Representatives on Tuesday. Zack Wahls spoke out against a resolution which would end civil unions in Iowa by describing his own experience as the son of two lesbian partners.

"Our family really isn't so different from any other Iowa family," said Wahls. "When I am home, we go to church together, we eat dinner, we go on vacations."

Wahls emphasized the typical nature of his upbringing, as well as his own success. He is an Eagle Scout and a small business owner. He also scored in the 99th percentile on the ACT. "If I was your son, Mr. Chairman, I believe I would make you very proud," he said.

Wahls, a sixth-generation Iowan, finished his testimony on an impassioned note. "In my 19 years not once have I ever been confronted by an individual who realized independently that I was raised by a gay couple," he said. "And you know why? Because the sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character."


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Hooray! Go, Zach, that's really cool. I hope his message made an impact.

There's been an awful lot of letters to state papers here in recent months opposing the removal of the three judges in last November's elections. Which pleases me .

Really cool to see Barbara Bush on board with supporting gay marriage as well .

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I'm just the fool here, but I believe,

it is wrong. (in my opinion)

It is not the family unit according to the Bible.
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No, you're right after all. We should live according to the Bible. Where "moral" lifestyles such as incest and adultery and children out of wedlock were rampant .

If hearing the story about Zach doesn't convince you that there's nothing wrong with this, I don't know what else I can possibly say to you anymore on this issue.

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I'm just the fool here, but I believe,

it is wrong. (in my opinion)

It is not the family unit according to the Bible.
It's just a book, let people make their own decisions.
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It's just a book, let people make their own decisions.
I agree, you can decide.


I'm just saying that that the ideal child raising scene includes a mother and father.
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I'm just saying that that the ideal child raising scene includes a mother and father.
According to you. There are plenty who would question that, and some, as Irvine has pointed out, that can bring strong evidence to support a different conclusion than yours.

Besides, this kid seems to be doing just fine:

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I'm just the fool here, but I believe,

it is wrong. (in my opinion)

It is not the family unit according to the Bible.


you can believe whatever you want.

don't deny me the same rights you enjoy. i pay taxes, i am a US citizen.

and if it's children we're talking about, studies show that gays and lesbians make good, if not superior, parents.

so you can believe whatever you want. but in a secular society, we rely on things like evidence.
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I'm just saying that that the ideal child raising scene includes a mother and father.

is this what you think that marriages were like in Biblical times?
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I agree, you can decide.


I'm just saying that that the ideal child raising scene includes a mother and father.
You may want to re-read your Bible.

Adam and Eve raised a murderer. Abraham's families were not "mother and father" raising their children. And what about Issac's family?

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