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Old 05-08-2010, 02:50 PM   #181
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from now on, if you're anti-gay, you're a self-loathing homosexual until proven otherwise.
It's definitely a trend for those that make it into a cause celebre.
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sometimes, a photo can say so much more than words. herein lies the difference between marriage and civil unions:

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I don't think Mitchell would be into PDAs.
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I don't think Mitchell would be into PDAs.


but Cam would.
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why?

because some things are best left behind closed doors?

why push the boundaries? this show is doing well, we like these gays
why have them behave in a way that will make fans feel uncomfortable?

there seems to be more gay people around these days
but they really don't do pdas, how often to you see 2 men kiss in public, or even hold hands?

plus these characters seem like reasonable men, why would they want to do that stuff in front of their young nieces and nephews? it might confuse them
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but Cam would.
What's your take on it, Irvine?

It doesn't bother me much that they haven't kissed, and I like that it's so not a big deal that they're gay, but as a straight female, I probably don't have the most interesting perspective on it.

My "worry" (for lack of a better word) is that now when they DO finally kiss, it's not going to seem very organic, it'll seem like the writers covering their butts to stop the grumbling.
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You think two gay men don't kiss when they are in their home alone?
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Yes, that's exactly what I think. Way to pick up on that.

I'm just addressing the controversy that's sprung up about if the show is considered so great and progressive, why have there not been muchas smooches.
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Irvine can address this, if he wants to

but the gay couple on Desparate Housewives have not kissed either.

TV, especially prime time, gives us this 'sanitized' depiction of gay people as 'we' are comfortable receiving them.

The 'gays' better calm down with this.
They can easily be written out again.
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To me, Cam and Mitchell seem to be written to be treated like it's no big deal that they're gay. They have an apparently great relationship, they adopted a baby, the family loves and accepts them - there have been plot lines that address their relationship, and Mitchell's relationship with his dad that touches on his being gay.

But of course, acknowlegement of their physical relationship is a big piece of the puzzle, too, if you want the whole picture of their life.

Anyway.
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why push the boundaries? this show is doing well, we like these gays why have them behave in a way that will make fans feel uncomfortable?

there seems to be more gay people around these days
but they really don't do pdas, how often to you see 2 men kiss in public, or even hold hands?

you see how this plays into one another?

though if you come to DC, i'll take you down 17th street on a saturday night so you can get some gay PDA if you wish.





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You think two gay men don't kiss when they are in their home alone?

we draw the blinds, though, because we don't want God to see.


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But of course, acknowlegement of their physical relationship is a big piece of the puzzle, too, if you want the whole picture of their life.

pretty much. if i have to put up with the (sometimes funny) baby-in-donna-summer-wigs gags, can't i get a blow job joke or two?
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besides, a blow job is nothing to joke about.

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if i have to put up with the (sometimes funny) baby-in-donna-summer-wigs gags, can't i get a blow job joke or two?


"Queer as Folk" belongs on premium cable

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The actor who plays Cam was on Ellen today (it was on the TV in the gym). I was kind of hoping it would come up, so I could report on it here, but all they talked about were filming in Hawaii and how his dogs have driver's licenses or something.

Oh well.

I think this is one of those times I should've just zipped it - I could whine until I'm blue in the face about how I don't care if they kiss or not, and now it'll be all forced when it does happen, but it's important for others, so I should just take my straight privilege and shut up.

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it's less that they should kiss, and more that i wish they could without it being some sort of national issue.

like, you know, if, say, a potential SCOTUS nominee is a lesbian, how is that any more or less relevant than her being Jewish?
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"Queer as Folk" belongs on premium cable


yes, any show with that level of nudity and language should be on premium cable.

though you can watch edited versions on Logo, and it's tamer than Sex and the City.
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