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Old 12-28-2004, 08:27 AM   #16
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Slap a "Christian" label of the thread and all the athiests come out. Slap an "athiest" label on the thread and all the Christians come out.
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Soren Kierkegaard, the great Danish theologian.
Good stuff, very good stuff.
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The Interference forum community seems to be loaded with Christians -- at least it seems that way.
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Slap a "Christian" label of the thread and all the athiests come out. Slap an "athiest" label on the thread and all the Christians come out.
Not I! I didn't go in the atheist thread. Should I?
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Then the choices would be liar or lunatic. I think he was a decent person who was ahead of his time, but not the son of god. If he thought he was the son of god, then lunatic (since "delusional, but not evil" was not an option).

I think he was entirely human -- nothing divine. I do think that because he was something of an outcast (born out of wedlock) he might well have had a more compassionate view of other people outside the norm.
I can agree with this.

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Old 12-28-2004, 03:03 PM   #22
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Ah....but how can you pay any attention to a crazy man who thinks he's god? Or if he was not crazy and just decietful, then how can you say his teachings are good? You see you can't really have it both ways. Either you reject him or accept him as who he claimed to be.
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Ah....but how can you pay any attention to a crazy man who thinks he's god? Or if he was not crazy and just decietful, then how can you say his teachings are good? You see you can't really have it both ways. Either you reject him or accept him as who he claimed to be.
I personally believe if anything, he was crazy, not deceitful...but I'd say that even if he personally believed he was the son of God, and it was a mere delusion, it still wouldn't make me ignore his teachings of loving each other and accepting people for who they are and all that, because while he may have his delusions (and personally, I'd say he could think whatever he wanted in regards to who he's related to), the things he's teaching are still things I can apply to my realistic life, as can other people, hence why I'd still pay attention.

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What would those of you who think Jesus was a liar or crazy say about the numerous prophesies found in the Old Testament that he fulfilled, which in turn, point to him being the Christ?
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Ah....but how can you pay any attention to a crazy man who thinks he's god? Or if he was not crazy and just decietful, then how can you say his teachings are good? You see you can't really have it both ways. Either you reject him or accept him as who he claimed to be.
You seem to see it as only black or white -- I think things can be grey. I do think that Jesus could have been an intelligent, compassionate man, who was a bit delusional -- I do not see them as being mutually exclusive. I think he was well ahead of his time too. I don't say he wasn't a decent human, I just reject him as divine.

As to your "how can you pay any attention to a crazy man" question, I quote E.B. White "Genius is more often found in a cracked pot than in a whole one." So...a bright person, with many good ideas, but a bit cracked. But I do reject him as the Son of God.

But you can believe whatever you like. If it works for you, that's good.
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When I was in high school I myself thought that Jesus was a great teacher who was probably nuts. I'd rejected the faith I'd learned as a child. Things changed when I got out in the jungle, so I've had the experience of looking at the whole situation in more than one way myself. One can believe he was a great guy, a very compassionate and intelligent man, but not God. Then you can take that "leap of faith", and just believe He was God. For me, it's a very emotional, intense matter of the heart that I can't really explain.
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... I do think that Jesus could have been an intelligent, compassionate man, who was a bit delusional -- I do not see them as being mutually exclusive. ...
Like Dali for example! A complete nutter if there ever was one, but a genius no less.
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Are you comparing Dali to Jesus, angie?

ARE YOU!!!!!

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:36 AM   #29
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Jesus K, nothing of the sort.

I'm comparing Jesus to Dali.
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This forum is full of Athiests and Christians. Any Muslims or Hindus or any Zoroaster worshippers? I love that word. Sounds like Toaster.
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