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Old 09-15-2005, 08:41 AM   #1
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The British Royal Family

After not being able to escape seeing Prince Harry on TV this morning I thought I'd bring up the topic of the royal family. I'd be interested to hear anyones opinions towards them.

If anyone wants a laugh, have a read of the comments about Harry on the BBC website http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4246970.stm

My personal favourite:
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So some spoilt rich boy is 21 and it's a major story. Sad, sad country.
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I think it's quite embarrassing that a modern democratic country still has a monarchy, but that's just me.
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The Netherlands itself is a modern democratic country with a monarchy, isn't it?
As long as the politicial influence of the monarchy isn't existing I don't have a problem with that.

I think it's nice of the British Royals to be that funny.
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My favourites are torn between the ones who describe Harry's mistakes as "typical teenage mistakes". (Oh PR, I just found that whole 'Nazi uniform' stage of my teenage years sooooo embarassing to look back upon in the photos, don't you?). And this one:

I take it that the reference to being in a ditch in Wales is connected to his Army life rather than stumbling out of a local pub after some birthday drinks....
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The Netherlands itself is a modern democratic country with a monarchy, isn't it?
That's what they say yes, but don't expect me to become a monarchist soon.
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And we got rid of our last emperor in the Netherlands
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they're fun, i suppose. Wills is certainly attractive.

but they do seem anachronistic.
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As long as the politicial influence of the monarchy isn't existing I don't have a problem with that.
Unfortunately the royals' political influence here is underestimated.. they have a worrying amount of power and have abused the court system to silence dissent and issue injunctions to stop any publishing of their embarrassing secrets. Important political decisions have been heavily influenced by monarchs in the last century such as the appeasement of Hitler!

Also politically, if the monarchy is meant to represent what the country stands for they don't do it in a particularly good light. Elitism, discrimination, diminishing of society...
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I find the British Royal Family to be interesting from a historical point of view. Since I'm not British I don't think it's my place to tell the British that they should or shouldn't have a monarchy, it's their choice.
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I take it that the reference to being in a ditch in Wales is connected to his Army life rather than stumbling out of a local pub after some birthday drinks....
Actually the first thing I thought of when I read that was him in a drunken state!
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I find the British Royal Family to be interesting from a historical point of view. Since I'm not British I don't think it's my place to tell the British that they should or shouldn't have a monarchy, it's their choice.
If only it was our choice!
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Important political decisions have been heavily influenced by monarchs in the last century such as the appeasement of Hitler!
The appeasement was necessary IMHO. We should have nipped it in the bud as soon as he remilitarised the Rhineland but we didn't. By the 'Peace in our Time' stage it was far too late. At the same time as signing the Munich Agreement Chamberlain was agreeing to massive public spending on the armed forces. The UK was one of the few countries to stick to the Treaty of Versailles and start demilitarising. Therefore by 1938 Nazi Germany was far far stronger in military terms than the UK following years of secret then open rearmament. If we'd put our foot down in 1938 then we might not have won. It was a delay for time as much as anything else.

But then again wasn't the Duke of Windsor supposed to have Nazi connections?

I don't mind having a royal family at all. It provides a good balance between PM and Royalty. People might say it isn't democratic but Hitler was elected democratically. That said the Queen at the minute has always seemed like a very sensible one, I don't know what would happen if we got a 'bad' monarch.

But I can see where the arguments against a royal family come in. I just think that there are worse, more immediate issues in this country that need to be addressed first.
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My best friend seriously wants to marry Prince Harry and have his babies....


She's crazy.
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My best friend seriously wants to marry Prince Harry and have his babies....
I bet she would be on a very long list of women with similar desires. My wife's niece has made similar statements to us in the past.
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The royal family, itself, is fine if the British people continue to want them, but I would be quite incensed if my tax dollars were being used to support their posh lifestyle.

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