The Bible - just an interesting read or the divine inspired flawless Word of God? - Page 4 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-04-2004, 10:22 PM   #46
Offishul Kitteh Doctor
Forum Moderator
 
bonosloveslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Taking care of kitties
Posts: 9,655
Local Time: 10:28 PM
There would have been no need for an Ark at all if the flood was local in extent.
__________________

__________________
bonosloveslave [at] interference.com
bonosloveslave is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:25 PM   #47
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,961
Local Time: 10:28 PM
that article just makes the story more impossible to me. noah spent 100 years of his life planning and building the ark?

__________________

__________________
Screaming Flower is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:27 PM   #48
ONE
love, blood, life
 
melon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 11,781
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by bonosloveslave
How many animals of each kind?
This doesn't solve anything, except the apparent contradiction between two animals and seven animals. It doesn't challenge the fact that, two or seven, it is still an impossible fete.

Melon
__________________
melon is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:28 PM   #49
ONE
love, blood, life
 
melon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 11,781
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Indeed. There would have been no need for an Ark. That's why I don't believe that there ever was.

Melon
__________________
melon is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:29 PM   #50
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,881
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Flower
that article just makes the story more impossible to me. noah spent 100 years of his life planning and building the ark?

They aren't real years....they are really nonoseconds...think spaceships...
__________________
Dreadsox is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:30 PM   #51
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,961
Local Time: 10:28 PM
weirdo.
__________________
Screaming Flower is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:30 PM   #52
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,881
Local Time: 10:28 PM
This almost reminds me of the South Park episode about Mormons.

__________________
Dreadsox is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:31 PM   #53
Offishul Kitteh Doctor
Forum Moderator
 
bonosloveslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Taking care of kitties
Posts: 9,655
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by melon


Indeed. There would have been no need for an Ark. That's why I don't believe that there ever was.

Melon
There was no Ark built at all? Or it wasn't necessary?
__________________
bonosloveslave [at] interference.com
bonosloveslave is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:32 PM   #54
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,881
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Thanks for the great thrads....bonosloveslave.....I may be back later....but .... I am going to eat my last supper.......before surgery in the AM....Peace to All.....

Beam me up Scotty!

Oh....sorry for posting crap...Melon....
__________________
Dreadsox is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:33 PM   #55
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 11,961
Local Time: 10:28 PM
good luck tomorrow dread.

and i agree - good threads bls. and interesting discussions.
__________________
Screaming Flower is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:33 PM   #56
Offishul Kitteh Doctor
Forum Moderator
 
bonosloveslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Taking care of kitties
Posts: 9,655
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Ok. So several of you don't believe the whole Bible, citing Creation and the Flood. What else do you not believe in it?

Maybe the better question - what *do* you believe in it, and why? How do you know you are picking out the things that are true?
__________________
bonosloveslave [at] interference.com
bonosloveslave is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:36 PM   #57
Offishul Kitteh Doctor
Forum Moderator
 
bonosloveslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Taking care of kitties
Posts: 9,655
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Enjoy your last meal Dread! Praying eveything goes well for you tomorrow and that this will be your LAST surgery!
__________________
bonosloveslave [at] interference.com
bonosloveslave is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:45 PM   #58
Offishul Kitteh Doctor
Forum Moderator
 
bonosloveslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Taking care of kitties
Posts: 9,655
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by melon
Not to mention the impossiblity of Noah going down to Australia to save all the marsupials that exist only in Australia.

Melon
Genesis 6:20 Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive.

So - the animals came to Noah, he didn't go collect them. Also, how do you know marsupials were only in Australia before the flood?
__________________
bonosloveslave [at] interference.com
bonosloveslave is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:54 PM   #59
ONE
love, blood, life
 
melon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 11,781
Local Time: 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by bonosloveslave
Ok. So several of you don't believe the whole Bible, citing Creation and the Flood. What else do you not believe in it?

Maybe the better question - what *do* you believe in it, and why? How do you know you are picking out the things that are true?
I really don't mean to be sounding harsh in here; I often think that when I describe my belief system that it often comes off that way. I generally follow a "live and let live" attitude; hence, as long as one's belief system cannot infringe on another's right to live in disagreement, then I'm fine. Of course, the fact that this line is crossed on a regular basis in civil society is where I fly off the handle.

But, back to the topic, I go back to Romans 13:10. "Love is the fulfillment of the law"; thus, LOVE is the entire "moral of the story" that is the Bible. Thus, anything else beyond that I generally deem to be an unnecessary accessory. So what if I believe in a God-created evolution rather than creationism? "God" is still central to the creation of the universe, in my belief system. In terms of Noah and the Flood, I believe that it is a passage that we tend to have overemphasized culturally, as if to imply that it is central to our faith. In contrast, there are many stories in the Bible that we have all but forgotten...so why such the emphasis on THAT ONE specificially? Whether or not a flood existed at all is IRRELEVANT to the existence of God and the grace of Jesus Christ, not to mention the fulfillment of LOVE. Truthfully, I'm more interested in the story as a cultural artifact than anything else.

And, admittedly, a lot of our disagreements are going to come from our widely differing Christian origins. "Questioning," at least for much of Roman Catholicism's 20th century history, was never seen as a problem. As such, my faith does not hinge on whether or not the world was created in seven 24-hour periods or over six billion years, and, frankly, most Catholics will say the same thing. Evolution is seen as fully compatible with God. Regardless, though, I find that creationism vs. evolution to be utterly trivial to the central message and purpose of the Bible.

Quite honestly, I do have to wonder about the faith of those who DO falter when these accessories are challenged? I'm not implying that of you or of anyone in here; I do not know what is in your heart. But I cannot help but "wonder" from a general point-of-view.

Melon
__________________
melon is offline  
Old 03-04-2004, 10:56 PM   #60
Offishul Kitteh Doctor
Forum Moderator
 
bonosloveslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Taking care of kitties
Posts: 9,655
Local Time: 10:28 PM
For those of you who think men altered the Bible as the years went on, what do you make of the statement by Jesus in John 10:35 that 'the Sciptures cannot be altered'? It seems that would make Him a liar if they could...
__________________

__________________
bonosloveslave [at] interference.com
bonosloveslave is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com