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Completely infallible and true in every word, delivered from God Himself 13 25.49%
Completely infallible and true in every word, but only partly God-given 0 0%
Completely infallible and true in every word, but from human writers only 1 1.96%
Mostly true due to human meddling, delivered from God Himself 5 9.80%
Mostly true due to human meddling, but only partly God-given 6 11.76%
Mostly true due to human meddling, but from human writers only 1 1.96%
Neither overly true nor overly false, delivered from God Himself 1 1.96%
Neither overly true nor overly false, but only partly God-given 0 0%
Neither overly true nor overly false, but from human writers only 11 21.57%
Mostly false, but still on the right track in its teachings, delivered from God Himself 0 0%
Mostly false, but still on the right track in its teachings, but only partly God-given 1 1.96%
Mostly false, but still on the right track in its teachings, from human writers only 5 9.80%
Mostly false and errant in its teachings, delivered from God Himself 0 0%
Mostly false and errant in its teachings, but only partly God-given 0 0%
Mostly false and errant in its teachings, but from human writers only 2 3.92%
Completely false and errant in every word, delivered from God Himself 0 0%
Completely false and errant in every word, but only partly God-given 0 0%
Completely false and errant in every word, from human writers only 2 3.92%
I have never read the Bible and have no opinion 3 5.88%
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:30 PM   #16
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never read it but i believe in 'Mostly false, but still on the right track in its teachings, from human writers only'. but even then i'm not so sure. i dont think i like how it is represented by some at times and so on.
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:35 PM   #17
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they're all correct.

it's whatever you want it to be.

the problem is when you start to live your life based on the premise that what you want it to be is actually what it is.

humility, please.

it is not fact, it is faith.
I'll second DaveC here, too .

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Old 06-28-2005, 07:36 PM   #18
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"Completely false and errant in every word, delivered from God Himself"

I wonder if anyone will pick this one...

Oh, that God, he likes to mess with us
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Well hell, I had to make it an option...

It's right up there with "Completely infallible and true in every word, but from human writers only".
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Old 06-28-2005, 07:45 PM   #20
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Ironically, I'm reading this as a George Carlin thing is on TV-he's talking about how odd a lot of religious stuff sounds to him.

I gotta say, I'm personally agreeing with a lot of it, too.

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Mostly false and errant, because:

1) The Old Testament is part early Judaism (tribal, henotheistic), which would have been written oral tradition, and part Pharisaic Judaism (Zoroastrian-infused, monotheistic), which was mostly written with the intention to ensure loyalty to the Persian Empire, rather than reflect on adherence to the Jewish faith.

2) The New Testament is a mixture of conflict between Jewish Christianity and Gentile Christianity, which borrowed less from Jesus and more from the Zoroastrian cult, Mithraism.

3) Then throw in 2000 years of politically charged translations into the mix that were less interested in accuracy in favor of maintaining traditional interpretations.

My faith in God does not emanate from the Bible, but rather from personal revelations.

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"Completely false and errant in every word, delivered from God Himself"

I wonder if anyone will pick this one...

Oh, that God, he likes to mess with us
A prankster God!

Plus he planted all those fossils to make it look like the world was millions of years old, even though the Bible says it is only a couple of thousand.
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"Completely false and errant in every word, delivered from God Himself"

I wonder if anyone will pick this one...

Oh, that God, he likes to mess with us
If you believe in a "Demiurge," you might be inclined to pick that one. That's how certain fringe sects have reconciled the warrior God of the early Old Testament and the loving God of the later OT and NT.

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i picked mostly false and errant from humans. i'm such a downer.
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completely false and errant, by human writers only

that's what i think

that does not mean i dont agree with many of the morals it teaches (shown through metaphors)
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A prankster God!

Plus he planted all those fossils to make it look like the world was millions of years old, even though the Bible says it is only a couple of thousand.
October 24th, 4004 BC at 9 am, to be exact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher-Lightfoot_Calendar
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If you believe in a "Demiurge," you might be inclined to pick that one. That's how certain fringe sects have reconciled the warrior God of the early Old Testament and the loving God of the later OT and NT.

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Interesting, is this something to do with Manicheaism the early Christian heresy?
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October 24th, 4004 BC at 9 am, to be exact.
that's pretty crazy that dates and time could exist before night and day.
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October 24th, 4004 BC at 9 am, to be exact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher-Lightfoot_Calendar
"It was widely believed that the Earth's potential duration was 6,000 years (4,000 before the birth of Christ and 2,000 after)."

So we're on year 6,001, according to this. Gotta love it when creationists get it wrong over and over.

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completely false and errant, by human writers only

that's what i think

that does not mean i dont agree with many of the morals it teaches (shown through metaphors)
That's why I went with the neither overly true or overly false. It has it's good points (so even if they aren't absolute fact, they aren't completely false or errant).

Interesting to note we picked two different ways of expressing virtually the same thing. That may have been at least part of the point of this thread.
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