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Old 02-17-2005, 07:04 PM   #1
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The Artist and the Scientist

Quotes from Bono:-

"Part of what we do, part of what any artist does, is illusion: you suggest rather than spell out." p. 296, John Waters' book

"...Now if my own beliefs were based purely on that, that would be nothing. But mine are based on feelings, senses, instinct, music. I'm a musician. And music is all about faith. You step from one note to the other, believing it will be there when you put your foot down. You're walking on water - all the time. And faith is about that. I don't have it all figured or anything, but I know there's something more than this. And I feel more than I know". -

P 156, John Waters' book

It seems to me that creative artists follow different thought processes to scientists.

The scientist:- logic, rationality, reasoning from cause to effect are paramount.

The artist: - rationality and logic are less important, may even inhibit creativity. Instead, less structured, sometimes even chaotic processes are followed.

Or in simple terms, the old "left brain vs right brain" dichotomy.

Any thoughts, or am I talking tripe again?
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yeah



but i like both










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Give me science over art anyday.
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Give me science over art anyday.
It depends on what you are looking for.

I don't want my doctor, or the engineers who designed the airplane I'm going to be flying in to be artists. But I do want an artist to make the music I listen to, the paintings on my walls, and to write the books I read (unless they are textbooks or the like). There certainly is room in my life for both.
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Is art a luxury or a necessity?
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Is art a luxury or a necessity?
Well, I try to persuade everyone it's a necessity, but perhaps that's cause I'm an artist....
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Art is completely a necessity. It opens the mind. Without art there is no science.
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I agree, and applaud your insight!
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Of course you can have science without art, the possibilities an inquisitive mind are boundless.
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Give me science over art anyday.
If I had to get rid of Einstein or Bono, I'd get rid of Einstein. I know, I lack appreciation for E=mc2.
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Science was never my strong subject in school. Art was one of my better ones. Therefore, I personally prefer art. But I do believe that both things are equally important in life.

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Of course you can have science without art, the possibilities an inquisitive mind are boundless.
I think you might equate artist with fool and good artists are far from fools (although so called artists who trade in dreck may well be). The vast majority of artists I know have incredibly inquisitive minds. Still not sure if I'd want them doing brain surgery or aircraft engine design, but for intelligent discussion on a vast number of subjects, many are brilliant.
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Quite the contrary, there are many brilliant artists throughout history ~ they create pieces of fancy for our humanity. I am simply saying that science and art can be mutually exclusive ~ you do not need one for the other.

Science reveals what is already there, the scientist wields the torch of knowledge and inquiring mind to find the facts.

I do not think that the theory of general relativity is art nor do I consider a symphony to be science.
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perhaps you should look into Leonardo da Vinci




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nor do I consider a symphony to be science.

is math a science?
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Operative word was can be, like most things there is no clear boundry between the two. This was in relation to the statement that without art science wouldn't exist ~ I think that both art and science can exist independently of eachother and are not dependent on eachother.
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