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Old 07-28-2005, 02:43 PM   #16
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With his imaginary WMDs
anitram, what was in those large trucks that were transporting material from Iraq to Syria in the weeks before the war? You know, the trucks that Charles Duelfer himself pointed out?
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am i happy Saddam is gone? yes.

was it worth the invasion of Iraq? no.
that's generally how I feel, although I think whether it was worth the invasion will only truly be clear years from now. I really hope I'm proved wrong and that the country can succeed, that the invasion turns out to have been the right thing to do. I really hope so.

also, it's hard to unequivocally state whether or not it was worth it...someone who was tortured under Saddam may disagree with someone who's lost family in the current war.
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anitram, what was in those large trucks that were transporting material from Iraq to Syria in the weeks before the war? You know, the trucks that Charles Duelfer himself pointed out?


good thing they're in the hands of the Syrians now.

face it: while there are arguments to be made for the invasion of Iraq, WMDs is not one of them.

let it go.
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good thing they're in the hands of the Syrians now.

face it: while there are arguments to be made for the invasion of Iraq, WMDs is not one of them.

let it go.
Again, I'll ask - what was in those trucks?
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that's generally how I feel, although I think whether it was worth the invasion will only truly be clear years from now. I really hope I'm proved wrong and that the country can succeed, that the invasion turns out to have been the right thing to do. I really hope so.

also, it's hard to unequivocally state whether or not it was worth it...someone who was tortured under Saddam may disagree with someone who's lost family in the current war.
Good points.
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Again, I'll ask - what was in those trucks?


any number of things.

the burden of proof is on you, sir.
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I bet something fishy was going on, I doubt Saddam was completely innocent. Still, there's nothing we could really prove, and nothing that would distinguish his (possible) nuclear ambitions from countries like Iran, etc. It was a very weak argument for war, it's obvious they were looking for a reason to go in.
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any number of things.

the burden of proof is on you, sir.
No, it's not. I'm not trying to prove that there were WMDs. What I am saying is that there are many people in this thread saying there weren't any, and yet those trucks, pointed out by the same man who wrote the famous and oft-cited WMD report, leave open a strong possibility that there were indeed WMDs but that they were taken away. Duelfer himself said that was a possibility.
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Duelfer himself said that was a possibility.


so we go to war on possibilities?

great rationale.
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It's also possible that E.T. will be over for dinner later on in the day.

WMDs have not been found. That is a fact. Your presumption about the trucks is just that - a presumption.
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so we go to war on possibilities?

great rationale.
No, we go to war based on several countries' intelligence, which is what Bush did.
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Thing I always found amusing about the weapons argument-North Korea has them, so why don't we go after them? Whenever I'd ask that question, people would say that it was because they could attack us back. Well, so could've Iraq if they had the weapons, right? But that didn't stop us from going after them. Also, so, if they're liable to attack us back after we've attacked them, then our having weapons of our own (yeah, we tell other countries to get rid of theirs...great, I totally support that idea . But then maybe we should do the same so we don't look like hypocrites, eh?) isn't exactly a deterrent now, is it?

Also, I thought we didn't like pre-emptive strikes. 9/11 was a pre-emptive strike, no? That sure pissed us off. And yet what did we do with Iraq?

So much hypocrisy involved here, and I didn't feel our government's reasoning was all that sincere...my main reasons for not supporting this war. I'm all for trying to stop terrorism, but not like this.

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You mean continue not to have WMDs?
Guess which leader has used WMDs more times than any leader in history? Saddam had one of the largest stockpiles of WMD's in history and to date has failed to account for thousands of them according to United Nations Weapons Inspectors. No one knows exactly where they are or what condition or state(intact or dismantled) they are in, but to see they don't exist is false.
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It's also possible that E.T. will be over for dinner later on in the day.

WMDs have not been found. That is a fact. Your presumption about the trucks is just that - a presumption.
It's no more presumptious than your presumption that Saddam didn't have them moved to Syria.

All we know is that the WMDs are not in Iraq now. You cannot say with any amount of certainty that they were not there when Bush was readying the attack.
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I believe we would have gone into Iraq after 9/11.

I believe it would have been conducted quite differently however.

There was enough support from both parties post 9/11 for this to have potentially happened.

I do believe Gore would have built a coalition that consisted of more representation from other Arab nations.

I also believe he would have got France and Germany more on board.

Just my 2 cents.
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