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Old 06-07-2007, 09:30 PM   #76
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Haha. Possibly? How much do you know about Iraq pre-invasion?


and what's so funny is that the "terrorists" in Iraq -- by which we have to mean Al-Qaeda soldiers eager to hone their fighting skills by battling American soldiers at night and being trained by them during the day -- are the least of our problems.

it's the whole sectarian conflict thing-y that's the real bitch.
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Haha. Possibly? How much do you know about Iraq pre-invasion?
He's got satellite photos
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secondly, i'm of the opinion that they both should have been hung.

sheesh.

Aren't you becoming quite the proponent of capital punishment! You're faster on that gavel than Roy Bean.
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Aren't you becoming quite the proponent of capital punishment! You're faster on that gavel than Roy Bean.
unfortunately, being "feeble minded" does not save you by Texas standards
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unfortunately, being "feeble minded" does not save you by Texas standards
Don't run off. What makes you think the anthrax attacks of 2001 are al Qaeda since you brought it up? That is not the conclusion of the FBI or CIA.
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Are more terrorists in Iraq than there were pre-invasion? Possibly.
Talk about willful ignorance! Anyone who has kept even a cursory eye on Middle East current events should be fully aware that the number of terrorists in post-invasion Iraq VASTLY outnumber the terrorists in pre-invasion Iraq. As in, so vast a difference that to attempt to call it a possible increase is downright laughable. Or mind-bogglingly ignorant.
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Don't run off. What makes you think the anthrax attacks of 2001 are al Qaeda since you brought it up? That is not the conclusion of the FBI or CIA.
But an analysis of the anthrax mailings suggests that U.S.-based supporters of one of Osama bin Laden's closest advisers, Ayman al-Zawahiri, were responsible.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...931.shtml?s=lh

The article you posted from the end of Oct 2001 was a couple of days after the Patriot Act was passed.

I kind of suspect these attacks were the Bush Administration's
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But an analysis of the anthrax mailings suggests that U.S.-based supporters of one of Osama bin Laden's closest advisers, Ayman al-Zawahiri, were responsible.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...931.shtml?s=lh

The article you posted from the end of Oct 2001 was a couple of days after the Patriot Act was passed.

I kind of suspect these attacks were the Bush Administration's
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I read the article and it sounds like we still don't know. And don't these guys usually take credit for these things? Sooo, if we don't know, isn't Cheney right for not lumping the anthrax attacks in with 9/11. After all, look at how he's hammered for even the smallest suggestion that Iraq and 9/11 were linked after we find out that they weren't.

But I'm confused by your post. Are you implying that it was foreign terrorists with assistance from the U. S. government? An inside job.

(Raise your hand if you are "stupid", and you know it?")
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(Some things, I do know)

I knew my post went both ways.

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article is almost a putup job to lay it off on al-Queda (to me)

also
this site seems to be created just to keep attention on al Queda


http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com/



I do recall when all this was going down
it fed in to the "America is under attack" and most suspected Islamos.

The letter's were supposed to seal the deal

kind of like the "forged yellow cake" document did for justifying getting into the Iraq War

Well, what did the anthrax attacks accomplish?
Do we hear anything about them now?
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(Some things, I do know)

I knew my post went both ways.

The NewsMax
article is almost a putup job to lay it off on al-Queda (to me)

also
this site seems to be created just to keep attention on al Queda


http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com/



I do recall when all this was going down
it fed in to the "America is under attack" and most suspected Islamos.

The letter's were supposed to seal the deal

kind of like the "forged yellow cake" document did for justifying getting into the Iraq War

Well, what did the anthrax attacks accomplish?
Do we hear anything about them now?
I'll grant you this, it has all but been forgotten. But most things are today once there's nothing new to talk about. Any mention in the 9/11 report?

But back to nutty conspiracies. Wonder why there have been no new attacks? Wouldn't one right before the 06 elections have played right into Bush's hands? Assuming, of coarse, he green-lights these sorts of things. The week after Katrina? How about now, what with his popularity at an all-time low and even Republicans pissed at him?
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1 attack a hero makes, 2 attacks an incompetent president makes?
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But back to nutty conspiracies. Wonder why there have been no new attacks? Wouldn't one right before the 06 elections have played right into Bush's hands? Assuming, of coarse, he green-lights these sorts of things. The week after Katrina? How about now, what with his popularity at an all-time low and even Republicans pissed at him?
Your (rather hilarious) terror threat level colour chart thingy always seemed to swing in line with stuff like this.
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Nobody has said that Iraq did us harm. At least, no Republican that I can think of. We didnt invade Iraq because they attack us.

We went to Iraq because Saddam was a threat to us and to the Iraqi people. Iraq is the next step in the United States' post-9/11 foreign policy. Is Iraq a mess right now? Of course. Are more terrorists in Iraq than there were pre-invasion? Possibly. But Saddam was very, very dangerous and the world (and that includes Iraq) is better without him.
This isn't what you said last week.

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Good luck with that argument around here. Most people in this forum are of the opinion that the wrong president was hanged in Iraq for war crimes.
The more you post, the harder it is to take you serious...

I'm actually disappointed...
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I think what John Edwards meant by his bumper sticker comment is that the phrase "war on terror" has been used and manipulated by the Bush administration and others to justify the situation in Iraq, certain provisions of the Patriot Act, torture, questionable wiretapping, not having little things like warrants, etc. When something no longer has any real meaning because of the way it is used and manipulated by people to justify their actions, it's a bumper sticker. It's cliche, it has lost its' real meaning.

"I don’t know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.

- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Bush: “So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him. … And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. January 19, 2006.

How can anyone who wants to fight a real and legitimate war on terror ever say something like that? It's not the end of the war in terror but it's a start. Now we are left with even more motivation for terrorists and potential terrorists in that whole region. Bush will never face that fact, he lives in complete denial of it.
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