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Old 06-07-2007, 07:17 PM   #16
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Re: 29% they are trying to shore up the base - Indy bought it

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But this false argument will be bought by many
that won't invest any real effort get the information for themselves

Some people prefer to get their talking points spoon fed by right wing radio talkers
This describes a good portion of America...
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:31 PM   #17
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Re: 29% they are trying to shore up the base - Indy bought it

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This is a flat out lie -
the Sunnis are tired of al Qaida



both the Sunnis and the Shia would dispatch al Qaida in short order

It is only the distraction of occupiers and collaborators than have given al Qaida an opening.

But this false argument will be bought by many
that won't invest any real effort get the information for themselves

Some people prefer to get their talking points spoon fed by right wing radio talkers
Like Tony Blair one assumes.
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Like Tony Blair one assumes.


and Tony Blair has no reasons to justify his participation in the Iraq fiasco/debacle which has made him loathed at home as he's about to depart office.

no motivation to excuse his actions whatsoever.

that said, i think Tony got the big question -- islamist terrorism is extremely dangerous -- right, but he's been tragically wrong on Iraq. and he knows it.
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Oh Irvine, I wish you could/would run for office. NOVA is liberal!
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and Tony Blair has no reasons to justify his participation in the Iraq fiasco/debacle which has made him loathed at home as he's about to depart office.

no motivation to excuse his actions whatsoever.

that said, i think Tony got the big question -- islamist terrorism is extremely dangerous -- right, but he's been tragically wrong on Iraq. and he knows it.
If he is tragically wrong on Iraq then being tragically right isn't much better.
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i think Tony got the big question -- islamist terrorism is extremely dangerous -- right
Thank you. You can't get some American's to even admit that.
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Admit what, that Islamist terrorissm is extremely dangerous? I think most will acknowledge that...but don't brush the entire religion as a terrorist religion (even though I know there are some that will differ)
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Thank you. You can't get some American's to even admit that.


i will say that i think it's overstated, i think it's been politically manipulated to an egregious extent, i think 9-11 is the most exploited tragedy in American history -- but, yes, there are people who want us to die.

and you know what?

they'll kill me before they kill you, INDY. there is a freedom that i do enjoy in the West that is worthy of death in some circles.
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This describes a good portion of America...
And the 1/3 of Democrats that think George Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in an advance...what, and by whom, are they being spoonfed?
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If he is tragically wrong on Iraq then being tragically right isn't much better.


it may well be that the only thing that has ever prevented the civil war we're currently enjoying is crushing dictatorship.
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Thank you. You can't get some American's to even admit that.


Yeah, not invading Iraq = terrorism isn't dangerous.
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And the 1/3 of Democrats that think George Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in an advance...what, and by whom, are they being spoonfed?
A 1/3 of Democrats? Is this some poll you took?

There's a fair amount of evidence that certain things should have been taken more seriously, but to blame Bush would be ridiculous.

And those that have conspiracy theories as to Bush knew or had a part in 9/11, I doubt many are actually Democrats. Just like many in the far far right I wouldn't call Republicans.
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Not terrorist but Mohammedism is certainly regressive and intollerant it just manages to wear it in a way Christianity can't get away with as much these days.
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i will say that i think it's overstated, i think it's been politically manipulated to an egregious extent, i think 9-11 is the most exploited tragedy in American history -- but, yes, there are people who want us to die.


I understand that to some degree, but of coarse you can call it overstated, you'll have to admit, to some degree by the sheer fact that we have had no further attacks since then.
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they'll kill me before they kill you, INDY. there is a freedom that i do enjoy in the West that is worthy of death in some circles.
Well, Christians don't do so well in their caliphate either. If that's any consolation.
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it may well be that the only thing that has ever prevented the civil war we're currently enjoying is crushing dictatorship.
Wouldn't that be an unavoidable concequence after the regime collapsed anyway?
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