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Old 07-15-2006, 09:52 AM   #1
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"Thank You Jesus" Leads To Jail

Well 6 hours of jail. I wonder why his son recanted.


I see a related Boston Legal episode in the future...


HONOLULU --Junior Stowers raised his hands and exclaimed, "Thank you, Jesus!" in court last month when he was acquitted by a jury of abusing his son.

But his joy was short-lived when Circuit Judge Patrick Border held him in contempt of court for the "outburst" and threw him in jail.

Stowers, 47, sat in the courtroom and a cellblock for about six hours until the judge granted him a hearing on the contempt charge and released him.

The judge at a July 7 hearing dropped the contempt charge, a petty misdemeanor that carries up to 30 days in jail.

Stowers couldn't be reached for comment. But his attorney in the contempt case, Deputy Public Defender Susan Arnett, said he wasn't treated fairly.

"I don't think there's anything about saying 'Thank you, Jesus' that rises to the level of contemptuous behavior in this case," she told The Honolulu Advertiser.

Stowers is a devoutly religious man active in his church who spontaneously expressed his thanks to the higher power in which he believed, she said.

Family members and Stowers' pastor at Assembly of God Church, Iakopo Sale, who watched from the gallery were "very upset that those words could land somebody in jail," Arnett said.

Border declined to comment but indicated the court minutes reflected his actions. The minutes showed he found Stowers' "nonverbal gestures and outbursts to be disruptive and improper regardless of content."

Court minutes said Border later dropped the charge because he realized Stowers' trial lawyer, Deputy Public Defender Carmel Kwock, did not have time to tell Stowers the judge had ordered both sides not to show emotion when the verdict was announced.

Stowers, of Honolulu, was charged with hitting his 15-year-old son with a broomstick in January. The misdemeanor charge of abusing a household member carries a sentence of up to a year in jail. Stowers was free on a $1,000 bond.

During the trial last month, the boy recanted his earlier statements that his father hit him, according to court records.

The boy instead testified his brother had hit him with a car door, a story verified by the brother in court.

Just before the verdict was announced on June 29, Border called city Deputy Prosecutor Sean Sanada and Kwock to the bench and told them he didn't want a show of emotion by either side, according to a defense request to dismiss the contempt charge.

When Stowers made his remarks after the verdict was announced, the judge told him, "There will (be) no more of that," the papers said.

Stowers asked to approach the bench and apologize, but the judge told him he could not and ordered him to remain in the courtroom, the defense request said.
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Strange story.

Erhm, I’m actually curious about something. Can a person be held on remand indefinitely for ‘contempt of court’ in the US system?
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Depends on the what the contempt of court was. People have been held for months.

Theoretically, I guess it could be indefinite. I have not been able to find if there is a limit.
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Judges have too much power. And I'm not just saying that because of the nature of this case. I have always felt that way.
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I think it's very strange that this would be considered "contempt".
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Depends on the what the contempt of court was. People have been held for months.

Theoretically, I guess it could be indefinite. I have not been able to find if there is a limit.
I hope that the people held for months had done something pretty unforgivable.

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I think it's very strange that this would be considered "contempt".
Me too. Maybe there had been a lot of outburst during the trial?
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I hope that the people held for months had done something pretty unforgivable.
Generally for refusal to comply with a court order. They are released upon compliance or when their compliance is no longer necessary or if their contempt of court citation is overturned or when the judge feels they have been adequately taught their lesson.

I doubt that minor contempt of court is handled by more than a few hours or few days.
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Depends on the what the contempt of court was. People have been held for months.

Theoretically, I guess it could be indefinite. I have not been able to find if there is a limit.
Does the Geneva Conevention apply?
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Welcome to the future of America. Things seem to be going more and more in this Christ-hating direction.
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The article says contempt can be up to a 30 day sentence.
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Welcome to the future of America. Things seem to be going more and more in this Christ-hating direction.
I honestly don't think it had anything to do with what he said. I think his attorney would like us to think that. It's more than likely that the judge didn't care for him and was waiting for a reason to hold him in contempt.
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The article says contempt can be up to a 30 day sentence.

Thanks. I assume for that contempt situation as opposed to
noncompliance contempt. I know Susan McDougal was held for 18 months for contempt for refusing to answer questions.
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I honestly don't think it had anything to do with what he said. I think his attorney would like us to think that. It's more than likely that the judge didn't care for him and was waiting for a reason to hold him in contempt.
You're probably right.
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"Welcome to the future of America. Things seem to be going more and more in this Christ-hating direction"
Sorry, but the way I see it it's exactly the opposite. The supreme ruler of America is a right wing fundamentalist "Christian" - the majority in the congress and the senate are of the same ilk. If anything America is heading toward a full on THEOCRACY. These little minor incidents are aimed to fuel the fire. There very well may come the day when America becomes a full scale fourth reich of fundamentalist "christians". Youv'e got to admit that it seems to be heading that way. The scary thing in all of this is these people - these "christians" are in almost every way anti Jesus Christ. Quite spooky really.
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I agree with you that most so-called Christians these days are anti-Jesus, but I disagree on everything else. Look at how Jesus is being portrayed these days. I'd know for a fact how alot of people look down on Christians (especially at my age, the future of our country). Most people I tell I'm a Christian and follow the Bible laugh at me when I try to apply it to my life (especialy the people at my work.) The fact that I'm not interested in drugs, drunkeness and sex causes my peers to scoff at me.

In public schools Bibles and prayer are becoming less and less accepted while other religions (such as Islam, especially where I live) are becoming more accepted. In a nearby school students are not allowed to make their prayers to Jesus known but they set a time aside for Islam kids to pray (there's a picture on the front page of my paper of Islam teenagers all bowing on the floor). While this attitude may not be too mainstream, it's becoming more and more common as time goes on.

The ACLU is a major player in getting Christianity (much moreso than any other religion) out of the public. They don't want the ten commandments posted anywhere in public. They've gone into some communities sueing those who have Christmas trees in their yard. They've even moved towards removing stone crosses from graveyards. It's horrible IMO. In schools around my area Christ themed Christmas songs are not allowed to be sung because people may be offended (even though it's Christmas... a holiday celebrating Christ). Department stores took down their signs saying "Merry Christmas" because supposedly anything that has to do with Christ is no offensive and improper. Nativity scenes in my state are banned now. They're even trying to take Christ out of Christmas.

Despite your opinion on if it's right or wrong it's obvious that there are many peope in this country who don't like Christianity one bit.
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