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Old 10-26-2004, 09:14 PM   #1
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Terror Alerts are Manipulation!

The timing of these alerts have been suspicious. When W's ratings were slipping or there was bad news Ashcroft played these like a violin.

Here is an article that supports what many of us already know.

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October 26, 2004

Every terror warning raises Bush's approval rating 3 percentage points: study

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) - When the U.S. government issues a terror warning, President George W. Bush's approval rating increases an average of nearly three percentage points, a Cornell University sociologist said.

"The social theories predict it and anecdotally we know it to be true. Now we have statistical science to confirm it," said Robb Willer, assistant director of Cornell's Sociology and Small Groups Laboratory.

On average, a terror warning prompted a 2.75-percentage-point increase in Bush's approval rating the following week, said Willer, who published his study in Current Research in Social Psychology, a peer-reviewed online journal.

Robert Greene, a professor of history and communication at Cazenovia College, said he did not doubt the correlation but considered the small increase barely noteworthy.

"And I would think any benefit would be very temporary. Americans like crises to be solved," said Greene.

Willer said he took up his study in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks after watching Bush's approval rating soar from 51 per cent Sept. 10 to 86 per cent five days later.

Willer tracked the 26 times a U.S. government agency reported an increased threat of terrorist activity - not just changes in the alert level - between February 2001 and May 2004. He compared that with the 131 Gallup Polls conducted during the same period.

"From the perspective of social identity theory, threats of attacks from foreigners increase solidarity and in-group identification among Americans, including feelings of stronger solidarity with their leadership," he said.

Terror warnings increased presidential approval ratings "consistently," Willer said.

However, he said he was unable to measure how long the increase lasted.
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thank you, deep, for raising this issue.

The issue is one of integrity, of honesty, of fairness and of possible manipulation of the American people's votes by scaring them into undue worry over a "possible attack" on the USA with these meaningless "terror alerts".

The sky is not ready to fall on the USA, but the present administration's willingness to exploit these "terror alerts" for votes is despicable.

It shows their basic lack of respect for the American Public.

Very sad.
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The terror alerts are a lame attempt to cover their arses when the big one hits - they can tell the people that they were warned but the attack couldnt be averted.
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I love how the conspiracy becomes fact if the same circle keeps repeating the same idea. The public asked for terror alerts and they got them.
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How else is the public to be warned if something is up? It's not as if terrorism is made up by Bush. Apparently he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
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I'm sorry but coming out and telling us that an attack is imminent at convinient times during the election is just crap.

One good thing if Kerry wins, he has said he will do away with the color coding system.
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I don't understand why they are warning us about the election now. They did that in June -- coincidentally, two days after John Edwards was named veep running mate. It took them three months to figure out that if Spain was attacked before an election, we could be attacked too? And it they forgot about their June warning until now? I don't buy it.
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I think there is a difference between warnings based on readily recognizable events (like an election) and warnings based on intelligence.
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The color coding system is ridiculous.

If there's a terror alert, just tell the people. There's no need for a blanket "color" over the entire country if there's only a threat on Washington DC.

It just serves to scare the general public and send weak-minded folks into a panic, and to raise Bush's numbers.

How much you wanna bet the DofHS is going to raise the threat level this weekend to Orange for the country because of the election?
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ABCNEWS HOLDS TERROR WARNING TAPE

**Exclusive**

In the last week before the election, ABCNEWS is holding a videotaped message from a purported al Qaeda terrorist warning of a new attack on America, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The terrorist claims on tape the next attack will dwarf 9/11. "The streets will run with blood," and "America will mourn in silence" because they will be unable to count the number of the dead. Further claims: America has brought this on itself for electing George Bush who has made war on Islam by destroying the Taliban and making war on Al Qaeda.

ABCNEWS strongly denies holding the tape back from broadcast over political concerns during the last days of the election.

The CIA is analyzing the tape, a top federal source tells the DRUDGE REPORT.

ABCNEWS obtained the tape from a source in Waziristan, Pakistan over the weekend, sources tells DRUDGE.

"We have been working 24 hours a day trying to authenticate [the tape]," a senior ABCNEWS source said Wednesday morning, dismissing a claim that ABC was planning to air portions of the video during Monday's WORLD NEWS TONIGHT.

The terrorist's face is concealed by a head dress, and he speaks in an American accent, making it difficult to identify the individual.

US intelligence officials believe the man on tape may be Adam Gadhan - aka Adam Pearlman, a California native who was highlighted by the FBI in May as an individual most likely to be involved in or have knowledge of the next al Qaeda attacks.

According to the FBI, Gadahn, 25, attended al-Qaida training camps and served as an al-Qaida translator.

The disturbing tape runs an hour -- the man simply identifies himself as 'Assam the American.'
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The color coding system is ridiculous.

If there's a terror alert, just tell the people. There's no need for a blanket "color" over the entire country if there's only a threat on Washington DC.
DaveC,

How would you design an alert system that meets the public's expectation of advance warning, but also is immune to accusations of political manipulation?
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All I'm waiting for now is Osama's head on a platter Nov. 1st.
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DaveC,

How would you design an alert system that meets the public's expectation of advance warning, but also is immune to accusations of political manipulation?
Certainly not with a blanket system that covers the entire country based on a threat on one single city.

Warn the people in the city, okay. That's perfectly understandable.

But I don't see why Bubba and Mary Sue Peters in Dicktown, Alabama need to go board up their house and buy crates of duct tape if the threat is of a truck bombing in NYC.

It's pure manipulation. The more scared people are, the more they'll rally 'round the flag, and the leader by default.
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I know there is a political argument to attack the existing system. I'd like to hear more about your ideas for a system.

Do you have anymore detail on your proposed idea?
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Citywide warnings for specific attacks are all you need.

Broadcast them on radio, TV, newspapers, whatever.

But don't go saying that the entire nation is threatened if it's really not.
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