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Old 01-27-2005, 04:21 PM   #31
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Old 01-27-2005, 04:22 PM   #32
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- Princess Bride
When I was best man at my friends wedding, I gave the Princess Bride toast.

I had the entire room shanting "AS YOU WISH" after I would pretend to be my friends wife asking him to do something.

I thought it went well.
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When I was best man at my friends wedding, I gave the Princess Bride toast.

I had the entire room shanting "AS YOU WISH" after I would pretend to be my friends wife asking him to do something.

I thought it went well.
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Old 01-27-2005, 04:25 PM   #34
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A successful marriage requires falling in love many times, always with the same person. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Second Neurotic's Notebook, 1966
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Old 01-27-2005, 04:26 PM   #35
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Matthew 19:6
1 Samuel 18:1-4 is a great companion to that.

"...that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. ... Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul."

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1 Samuel 18:1-4 is a great companion to that.

"...that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. ... Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul."

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I rather doubt that David and Jonathan had a sexual relationship, as some Bible scholars believe, but this is an interesting contrast with David's, uh, philandering ways later in life.
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What makes a good marriage?

A good marriage must be created.
In the art of marriage the little things are big things.
Never being too old to hold hands.
Having a mutual sense of values and common objectives.
Remembering to say “I love you”.
Never going to sleep angry.
Standing together to face the world.
Forming a circle of love that gathers in the whole family.
Speaking words of appreciation and demonstrating gratitude in thoughtful ways.
Having the capacity to forgive and forget.
Giving each other an atmosphere in which each other can grow.
Finding room for things of the spirit.
Common search for the good and the beautiful in life.
Not only finding the right partner.
Being the right partner.

Taken from information sheet provided by Denise Lacey – Centacare
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A good marriage is made up of...


Two people who take ownership for the good as well as the bad. They are a responsible couple.


Two people believing good wins over bad. They are a hopeful couple.


Two people walking in each other’s shoes. They are an empathic couple.


Two people healing the hurts they don’t deserve. They are a forgiving couple.


Two people living the love they promise. They are a committed couple.
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I rather doubt that David and Jonathan had a sexual relationship, as some Bible scholars believe, but this is an interesting contrast with David's, uh, philandering ways later in life.
Sexual or not is not the point. The language used more than implies that their souls became one and they loved each other.

But OT figures are certainly not role models when it comes to fidelity and conflict resolution. With all the "concubines" and offering of their daughters to get gang raped is not exactly what we have in mind today.

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Oh, and I would have given you the same answer, as the definition here in California has not changed Pre or Post Bush.
Then I agree with Dread, that's a pretty shallow definition of marriage.
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I would add to NB's verse Genisis 2:23-24, Mark 10:6, Ephesians 5:21-33, Colossians 3:18-19 and Hebrews 13:4.

Melon, that verse in 1 Samuel is about friendship, not marriage. A few verses later you'll find that David married Michal, Saul's daughter.
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How did I know this thread wouldn't work. Sorry Dread.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:20 PM   #43
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Melon, that verse in 1 Samuel is about friendship, not marriage. A few verses later you'll find that David married Michal, Saul's daughter.
To mirror what I said in the other thread, David cannot marry a dead man. Jonathan is slain by the Philistines at the end of 1 Samuel.

At the beginning of 2 Samuel, David learns of his death and says this:

"I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother! Most dear have you been to me; More precious have I held love for you than love for women." -- 2 Samuel 1:26

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How did I know this thread wouldn't work. Sorry Dread.
Yeah...I wish things could be different.

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marriage......
pffffft I can't even get a date.

*saunters off to be bitter and jaded in private*
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