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Old 09-20-2006, 12:47 PM   #16
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"Men should be barred from public office for 100 years in every part of the world. ... It would be a much kinder, gentler, more intelligently run world. The men have had millions of years where we've been running things. We've screwed it up hopelessly. Let's give it to the women."

And I don't know what Nancy Grace has to do with it either, is she running in 08?
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:49 PM   #17
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No, you were changing what I said to fit your own opinion- I never said outrageous so you shouldn't have said that I did. You think it is outrageous.

You're being a tad melodramatic, I think the point Ted is trying to make is that many men are screwing things up so royally that perhaps some changes should be made. It's his style to speak in hyperbole, but the underlying message is there and is valid in my opinion. He's hardly saying that being a male is a curse, and I don't know where you get that from
So do we have to resort to dictatorship to achieve gender equality?

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It is not self loathing for a man to express those sentiments, or to promote women as leaders. His statement is a good one because it forces us all to take a good hard look at our attitudes and our leaders, and I for one think it's good for any man to think critically about all of that and to not be threatened in any way by women in leadership positions. I think it's self loathing for a man to be sexist.
I promote Janice Rogers Brown not because of her gender or race, but because I believe in what she stands for. I would have placed her ahead of Samuel Alito in the Supremes race. But I don't have to play on white male guilt on order to endorse her.
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Do you always have to find the extreme in order to dismiss the idea?
No. I consider Pat Buchanan to be the extreme, and even if I knew of a likewise counterpart, my comment wouldn't have been more "extreme" than Nancy Grace. I think Nancy Grace is a little hawkish in delivery, sure, but I don't consider her "extreme."
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So do we have to resort to dictatorship to achieve gender equality?

Where was dictatorship even mentioned?
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But I don't have to play on white male guilt on order to endorse her.
White male guilt? What does that have to do with anything that Ted Turner said? He is saying that he feels that men have screwed things up and that women have the abilities to be good leaders. And oh my God, he said that women would run things more intelligently- the horror

And I am baffled by your comment about dictatorship.
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Where was dictatorship even mentioned?
In BARRING MEN FROM OFFICE for 100 years.

But no, that is freedom, not dictatorship.
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White male guilt? What does that have to do with anything that Ted Turner said? He is saying that he feels that men have screwed things up and that women have the abilities to be good leaders. And oh my God, he said that women would run things more intelligently- the horror
Many women do make great leaders.

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And I am baffled by your comment about dictatorship.
How so?
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In BARRING MEN FROM OFFICE for 100 years.

But no, that is freedom, not dictatorship.
Do you even read people's responses? I'm getting the impression you don't.

Did you not see the response which you quoted was saying the language was hyperbole?
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Macfistowannabe, do you seriously think Ted Turner is suggesting men be banned from government for real? Silly me, I just thought he was making a bold statement to make a point.
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Macfistowannabe, do you seriously think Ted Turner is suggesting men be banned from government for real? Silly me, I just thought he was making a bold statement to make a point.
Read his other thread. He's into literal interpretations these days.
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I heard he has a diabolical plan to wipe all men off the face of the earth

Actually right now that sounds great, I'll save James Spader and Bruce and U2
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Ah, a self-loathing man condemning all men.
I agree.
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Funny, I think a very self assured and self confident man would make comments like that. Oooh, the very foundation of "masculinity" is at stake *shudder* *sound of earth falling off its' axis*

Sometimes I really marvel at the way some males here think, it's so surprising especially that younger men think a certain way. I'd better just leave it at that.
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especially that younger men think a certain way.
I've been wondering that for the last few days. How young men get so charged up with negative, racist, fearful ideas before they're even 25 years old.

And claiming to be Christian on top of it!
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Funny, I think a very self assured and self confident man would make comments like that. Oooh, the very foundation of "masculinity" is at stake *shudder*

I agree, it probably tells you a lot about the posters who think it's anything but masculine.
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