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Old 02-06-2008, 05:05 PM   #1
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Ted Haggard -- still not straight (should he just pray harder?)

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[q]Ted Haggard Quits New Life 'Restoration Team'
by: Cara DeGette
Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 09:10 PM MST

Technically, it only took three weeks of intensive "restoration" a full year ago to make Ted Haggard a "complete heterosexual." But on Tuesday night, the new pastor of the Colorado Springs megachurch that Haggard founded has announced that Haggard is quitting the team -- and that "the process of restoring Ted Haggard is incomplete."

Ted Haggard Quits New Life 'Restoration Team'

The latest twist in the Haggard drama comes via a vaguely-worded letter sent Tuesday to friends of New Life Church by its new pastor, Brady Boyd. In the letter, Boyd indicates that Haggard -- the charismatic evangelical leader who was fired by his church in early November 2006 in a shocking gay sex and meth scandal involving male escort Mike Jones -- is moving on.

"New Life Church recognizes the process of restoring Ted Haggard is incomplete and maintains its original stance that he should not return to vocational ministry," according to a statement. "However, we wish him and his family only success in the future."

After he was fired, Haggard and his family, including his wife and three boys, moved to Phoenix. Haggard agreed at the time to undergo "spiritual restoration" under the auspices of New Life Church. At the time, the church's claim of Haggard's so-termed "restored" sexual orientation status was met with disbelief from many quarters, most notably from the Christian group Soulforce, whose gay and lesbian members reject claims that homosexuality is either:

a. Something that can be "cured, or,"
b. A sin.

Here is Boyd's Tuesday letter and release:

[q]Dear New Life Church family and friends,

Today, our church's board of trustees will release a statement regarding the end of the restoration process for Ted Haggard. This process may receive some media attention, and I want you to hear of it from us before you read about it in the newspaper or hear it on the evening news.

Let's continue to pray for Ted, Gayle, and their family.

God bless you,

Brady Boyd
Senior Pastor
New Life Church
Colorado Springs, CO

--
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Ted Haggard's leadership of New Life Church for many years was extraordinary and the depth of spiritual maturity that is found today in the church is in large part attributed to his leadership as the founding senior pastor.

In January 2007, Ted Haggard voluntarily agreed to enter a process of spiritual restoration. He has selected Phoenix First Assembly and Pastor Tommy Barnett as his local church fellowship and is maintaining an accountability relationship there. He has recently requested to end his official relationship with the New Life Church Restoration Team and this has been accepted by them.

New Life Church recognizes the process of restoring Ted Haggard is incomplete and maintains its original stance that he should not return to vocational ministry. However, we wish him and his family only success in the future.

Because spiritual restoration is a necessarily confidential process, the church does not anticipate that it, or its Overseers or Restorers, will make further comment about it.[/q][/q]
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Re: Ted Haggard -- still not straight (should he just pray harder?)

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[q]Ted Haggard Quits New Life 'Restoration Team'
by: Cara DeGette
Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 09:10 PM MST

Technically, it only took three weeks of intensive "restoration" a full year ago to make Ted Haggard a "complete heterosexual." But on Tuesday night, the new pastor of the Colorado Springs megachurch that Haggard founded has announced that Haggard is quitting the team -- and that "the process of restoring Ted Haggard is incomplete."

Ted Haggard Quits New Life 'Restoration Team'

The latest twist in the Haggard drama comes via a vaguely-worded letter sent Tuesday to friends of New Life Church by its new pastor, Brady Boyd. In the letter, Boyd indicates that Haggard -- the charismatic evangelical leader who was fired by his church in early November 2006 in a shocking gay sex and meth scandal involving male escort Mike Jones -- is moving on.

"New Life Church recognizes the process of restoring Ted Haggard is incomplete and maintains its original stance that he should not return to vocational ministry," according to a statement. "However, we wish him and his family only success in the future."

After he was fired, Haggard and his family, including his wife and three boys, moved to Phoenix. Haggard agreed at the time to undergo "spiritual restoration" under the auspices of New Life Church. At the time, the church's claim of Haggard's so-termed "restored" sexual orientation status was met with disbelief from many quarters, most notably from the Christian group Soulforce, whose gay and lesbian members reject claims that homosexuality is either:

a. Something that can be "cured, or,"
b. A sin.

Here is Boyd's Tuesday letter and release:

[q]Dear New Life Church family and friends,

Today, our church's board of trustees will release a statement regarding the end of the restoration process for Ted Haggard. This process may receive some media attention, and I want you to hear of it from us before you read about it in the newspaper or hear it on the evening news.

Let's continue to pray for Ted, Gayle, and their family.

God bless you,

Brady Boyd
Senior Pastor
New Life Church
Colorado Springs, CO

--
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Ted Haggard's leadership of New Life Church for many years was extraordinary and the depth of spiritual maturity that is found today in the church is in large part attributed to his leadership as the founding senior pastor.

In January 2007, Ted Haggard voluntarily agreed to enter a process of spiritual restoration. He has selected Phoenix First Assembly and Pastor Tommy Barnett as his local church fellowship and is maintaining an accountability relationship there. He has recently requested to end his official relationship with the New Life Church Restoration Team and this has been accepted by them.

New Life Church recognizes the process of restoring Ted Haggard is incomplete and maintains its original stance that he should not return to vocational ministry. However, we wish him and his family only success in the future.

Because spiritual restoration is a necessarily confidential process, the church does not anticipate that it, or its Overseers or Restorers, will make further comment about it.[/q][/q]

I'm confused. Do you think they're trying to infer that the "treatment" failed, or that he is "straight again" and just moving on to some other restorationg movement or whatever they're calling it these days to make themselves look less like bigots?
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You know, if we were dealing with rational adults I would think that there would come a point where the mountain of evidence against "well my church tells me it's a choice" simply couldn't be dismissed any longer.



If only we were dealing with rational adults.
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I'm confused. Do you think they're trying to infer that the "treatment" failed, or that he is "straight again" and just moving on to some other restorationg movement or whatever they're calling it these days to make themselves look less like bigots?


i think they're saying that it just didn't take -- he's still totally gay.
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i think they're saying that it just didn't take -- he's still totally gay.
It didn't take, it's nice to know that the "ex-gay" people compare homosexuality to an organ transplant. They have an unbelivable basic knowledge of the human body and mind.
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Well he should just keep at it! You can't always succeed on the first try. Like, for example, maybe it took a little and now he only likes hot guys? You gotta build your way up to like George Clooney.
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You gotta build your way up to like George Clooney.
I don't. But then again, I'm a straight woman who's attracted to a man old enough to be my dad. Along with gorgeous George, I would also not kick Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, or Hugh Laurie out of bed. Do they have a movement for me?
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Like, for example, maybe it took a little and now he only likes hot guys?
You mean like some of the guys on the New Life Church Staff?
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Meh. They need to go in baby steps. Give him back the drugs and hookers, only make them female prostitutes this time around. If they're supplying the high, he'll come around eventually.
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You mean like some of the guys on the New Life Church Staff?
http://newlifechurch.org/staff.jsp


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he'll come around eventually.

I see what you did there.
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Well he should just keep at it! You can't always succeed on the first try. Like, for example, maybe it took a little and now he only likes hot guys? You gotta build your way up to like George Clooney.
Well, even the straightest of men such as myself know men like Clooney and Barack Obama are sexy manbeasts
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You mean like some of the guys on the New Life Church Staff?
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http://newlifechurch.org/staff_bio.jsp?id=38

What a waste.
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I feel so bad for this guy. (And his wife and children.) I really do. To think that a basic part of who you are is a sin and a mistake must be devastating.

I hope that the people in gay and lesbian churches really are praying for him.
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I feel so bad for this guy. (And his wife and children.) I really do. To think that a basic part of who you are is a sin and a mistake must be devastating.

The sad thing is that his is a problem that has a solution. And a pretty simple one at that.
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