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Old 02-24-2008, 08:44 PM   #46
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Expect to be what? Exempt or something?

You seem to expect taxes to get lowered or cut...

And I don't understand anyone who expects lowered taxes at a time like this. This administration dug a big hole, we have to find a way out...
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No, but I am concerned about them going up, especially with big new government programs.
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No, but I am concerned about them going up, especially with big new government programs.
Ok, fair enough... But with improvements come a little sacrifice and the idea that it all evens out in the long run.
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:54 PM   #49
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Same here. I 'd love to see our next Prez become more conservative when it comes to the budget.

Likewise, encourage all to sacrifice to help our great nation, either financially, through volunteerism, or what have you.
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Am I worried about taxes going up?

Nope.

I'm too poor to worry about it.

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I'm guessing that most people who have to worry about their taxes going up that much already make substantially more than the average American, and while that loss of $5000 would be a bit of "wounded pride," I'm guessing it isn't going to crimp one's overall lifestyle.

I'd like to know, basically, how much that $5000 figures as a percentage of your yearly income. On the other hand, as someone who personally finds it tasteless to ask that kind of question (and I'd never answer it myself), I'll understand if it remains a rhetorical question.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:27 PM   #52
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Am I worried about taxes going up?

Nope.

I'm too poor to worry about it.

Me too.

That $35,000 figure bandied around earlier as an example of pretty damned low earnings would be a huge increase for me.
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Same here. I 'd love to see our next Prez become more conservative when it comes to the budget.

So you're thinking the guy who thinks the war is a great idea would be your candidate?
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That $35,000 figure bandied around earlier as an example of pretty damned low earnings would be a huge increase for me.
Depends on where you live, though.

In some cities in this country, that is a sum that barely allows you to stay above the poverty line.
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No, but I am concerned about them going up, especially with big new government programs.


it seems to me that this was intended to be one of the lasting legacies of the Bush administration.

it has always been known that Cheney was never going to run. so part of the assumption was that 2008 (assuming a 2004 win -- and much of that assumption was based on starting a war in Iraq that was supposed to be quick and easy with victory parades starting towards the end of 2003 and spilling into the kickoff of Bush's re-election campaign at the start of 2004) was probably going to be won by the Democrats. so, why not run up deficits, why not spend, spend, spend like drunken sailors, give the country a huge deficit, and then when the Democrats get elected they will raise taxes in order to pay for Bush's huge credit card bill.

this angers people like you. your taxes go up. sure, there's a 9 trillion national debt, but you're taxes are going up by $5K!!!!! damn those Democrats. doggone it, i'm voting Republican in 2012.

or,

it's all part of the "starve the beast" mentality. we run up this huge debt. we're faced with a crisis.

i know.

let's cut the Department of Education. let's dismantle government itself. that's one way to cut back on spending.
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:57 AM   #57
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Depends on where you live, though.

In some cities in this country, that is a sum that barely allows you to stay above the poverty line.
Heck my income wouldn't be considered very good in any part of the US, not just the more expensive parts. Trust me -- the poverty line and I have known each other for most of my life.
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If the truth of the US government debt is as it appears (in articles one sees from time to time), I would say the least of your worries are whether this or that party implements this or that program. The more pressing concern is how to live on the downward slope of empire (never even declared as such, unlike the British), whilst maintaining a decent life for one's citizens.

Socialist? The US has never been further from that, or anything like it.
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Am I worried about taxes going up?

Nope.

I'm too poor to worry about it.

Me too. The gov't can triple my taxes and I'm cool with that. I did the math...3x0 = 0.
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No, but I am concerned about them going up, especially with big new government programs.
Okay, but how can you say you're worried about them going up for big government programs when the current administration has spent trillions of dollars on a war and has bloated the government with things like much, much larger "security" programs, and then they continue to cut taxes, putting us into a huge deficit. You can't have it both ways. Plus, I'd rather have taxes spent on actually useful programs like healthcare or education, not on other silly things that have no benefit for the majority of the American public.
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