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Old 12-14-2005, 04:56 PM   #61
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Well since Irvine raised the issue of rampant generalizations... ....
Regrettably, I am too woefully uninformed about Australian culture myself to have the slightest idea.

Yes I agree. Rampant generalisations left, right and centre.
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Yes I agree. Rampant generalisations left, right and centre.


oh, i totally agree, and tacked on a bunch of disclaimers.

but ... well, seemed germaine to the conversation at the time, but maybe not.
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:01 PM   #63
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One point I would make is that most Aussies aren't exactly 'PC' and sometimes that could be misconstrued as racism. Not that theren't are racist Aussies:- of course there are, like in any country. But my own personal experience has been that Australians are not by and large racists.

Secondly, Melbourne, for example, has some of the best art galleries in the world and puts most European cities to shame in this regard. Just a few comments off the top of my head.
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One point I would make is that most Aussies aren't exactly 'PC' and sometimes that could be misconstrued as racism. Not that theren't are racist Aussies:- of course there are, like in any country. But my own personal experience has been that Australians are not by and large racists.

Secondly, Melbourne, for example, has some of the best art galleries in the world and puts most European cities to shame in this regard. Just a few comments off the top of my head.


were you drunk when you wrote this? i'll bet you drank the dole again.

i'm off to invade a country that never attacked mine! but first, i'm going to engage in mindless sex with many anonymous partners.

talk to you later.














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I don't think my Aussie officemate has a racist cell in her body.
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were you drunk when you wrote this? i'll bet you drank the dole again....
To be shure to be shure. And me poor mammie raised us on a diet of stout and potatoes. All 25 of us. Ochon, ochon!! Shure 'tis plain to see, 'tis all the fault of the Sassenachs!
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To be shure to be shure. And me poor mammie raised us on a diet of stout and potatoes. All 25 of us. Ochon, ochon!! Shure 'tis plain to see, 'tis all the fault of the Sassenachs!

shet yer mouth or ah'll get muh shahtguhn!
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There's been some racist posters plastered up at railway stations here in Wellington, some underbelly type group put them up. They apparently call for white New Zealanders to riot Aussie style, saying white Kiwis should "take back our land".

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There's been some racist posters plastered up at railway stations here in Wellington, some underbelly type group put them up. They apparently call for white New Zealanders to riot Aussie style, saying white Kiwis should "take back our land".

Hmmmmm....that's why I think these groups are so illogical especially in the context of Aus and NZ - do they know anything of the cultural history of the countries they claim to be so 'loyal' to - as far as I am aware Pacific Islanders have been in NZ before whites, so to have a slogan 'take back our land' aimed at white Kiwis seems very foolish of them.
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Oh, those injuns and abbos and whatever they call Maoris were just a bunch of savages! They don't count! Only white people count!
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Well Maori culture seems to be quite vibrant by comparison to Aboriginal culture - I think this MAY have to do with the fact that the Maori culture was more advanced and developed at the time the Europeans arrived in NZ and was more in a position to 'stand up' for itself than the Aboriginal culture. That's just my impression, I would be interested in what our Aus and NZ interferencers think of my take on this.
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Very true but I'm willing to bet that most Europeans still thought of them as savages. That was the mentality back then.

Several Native American tribes were also quite advanced and they were still perceived that way.
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Hmmmmm....that's why I think these groups are so illogical especially in the context of Aus and NZ - do they know anything of the cultural history of the countries they claim to be so 'loyal' to - as far as I am aware Pacific Islanders have been in NZ before whites, so to have a slogan 'take back our land' aimed at white Kiwis seems very foolish of them.

Yeah, it's just what those idiots who were rioting in Sydney said. And it completely senseless .
The Maori were here in NZ for about 1,000 years before the Europeans came. In Australia the Aborigines were there for soemthing like 30,000 years befroe the Europeans (someone could correct me with the exact number of years, I'm not too sure).
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As a prominent australia member of this forum, can I just say that when I hear the word 'culture', I reach for my gun.

Come and visit sometime, Financeguy, we can pool our dole money and stay drunk forever! Once you get out into the country, there's lots of room to explode!!!!
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